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Volvo Or Case Excavator

KSSS

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Sumitomo is real strong excavator. The new B series seem to be a big hit with the guys who have them here.
 

dirthog27

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Sorry about the smarta** remark, know a guy who's got a Case thats about equivalent to a 320, and he likes it fine. Never sat on a Volvo, although I've heard good things about them.
 

bobcat ron

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Vovlo, quiet and excellent fuel economy and the pilots are nice and short, inlike the Case/LBX.
 

Tigerotor77W

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volvo = samsung right?

Volvo bought out Samsung's excavator line in the late 1990s, but the B-series does have Volvo changes to the machines.

That being said, I think the bulk of the engineering work is still done in Korea.
 

Wulf

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Volvo bought out Samsung's excavator line in the late 1990s, but the B-series does have Volvo changes to the machines.

That being said, I think the bulk of the engineering work is still done in Korea.

Volvo were also involved with Ackermann around that time I think. They built nice excavators so I'm not sure how much of that design influenced the current lineup.
 

bobcat ron

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The only problem I've ever heard about Volvo's is some operators (mainly my brother) complain about the jumping the boom does when you have the stick and boom all the way stretched out and pull the bucket towards you, it jumps for about the first 3 feet, they have touchy pilots and I never had that problem.
 

RamDodge

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The only problem I've ever heard about Volvo's is some operators (mainly my brother) complain about the jumping the boom does when you have the stick and boom all the way stretched out and pull the bucket towards you, it jumps for about the first 3 feet, they have touchy pilots and I never had that problem.

I operated a brand new Volvo EW180 for a couple of weeks last fall and never liked those controls, felt like you had very little control over the valves, all or nothing. It was equiped as a material handler with a grip so it migh have helped to tweaked the pilot pressure a little. I operated a slightly older Volvo EC240 after the 180 and that had really nice and smooth controls.

Volvo ARE Akerman. Volvo just built backhoes before they bought Akerman and changed logos. Then they bought Samsung and maybe joining those two will make a great excavator? Sturdiness and quality from Akerman and speed, reach and no leaks from Samsung?

As I understand LB, Case and Sumitomo are just different brands for the same excavator right? I operated a JCB/Sumitomo a few years back before they split up, A JS200 I think it was called. It was nice and smooth and strong as a bear, it would keep up with a 240 sized machine all day. Had a nice and quiet Isuzu that didn't waste diesel.
 

skata

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I operated a JCB/Sumitomo a few years back before they split up, A JS200 I think it was called. It was nice and smooth and strong as a bear, it would keep up with a 240 sized machine all day. Had a nice and quiet Isuzu that didn't waste diesel.
i had a chance to run a newer JCB JS220, it was a real nice machine. best cab i've seen. the isuzu motor is a top.
 

John C.

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The big difference I've seen is the stuff in the cabs of the Volvos fall apart in short order. Fan switches, air conditioning and mode controls have been giving people in this neck of the woods lots if issues.

The Sumitomo product does real well for the first 4,000 to 5,000 hours then seems to start the nickel and dime process all the time. Wiring issues and monitor problems is what I've seen. They also have a habit of busting something major and contaminating the hydraulic system for a really high dollar repair.

As I recall in the US both machines used Cummins engines and Kawasaki pumps but I looked at a Volvo a couple of months ago that had a Volvo engine. It had a real odd sound to it but seemed to run the machine all right. The machine was quite a bit different than a Samsung. The operator's would not run it so it was being fixed up for trade.
 

Countryboy

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Welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums Jon! :drinkup
 

Rockbreaker

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I would go for the volvo beacuse the cab is way better than what Case can offer you. Hydralics is maybe better on the Case but...
If you work someplace many hours comfort is important to me :D
 
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