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hmover
12-28-2007, 01:52 AM
Looked 1982 580D today and the info in the forum really helped.They still own it.Price seemed high for the condition. How much slop can there be in the tower pins. Know of some others coming up.What is a 1989 John Deere 300D 2 wd, extenda hoe and 4in1 bucket like.Noticed you don,t see many of this one around.Owner operator retired with this machine sounds like its coming up soon.He seems to take good care of his stuff . Also see JCB's aren't loved here.Whats wrong with them, see quite a few around here.
Got a million questions but never owned a backhoe, before just farm tractors.
I think a similar 580D here would bring about $16.5-$18K here and it would have to be in good-very good condition. The building boom is almost past it's peak here and that is starting to make prices drop slightly, but out there I think it's still strong. Economy drives equipment prices, as does the season.
Prices in the U.S. are different, but look on the machinery trader site for thousands of machines, prices and pictures. Search the auto trader on line for backhoes in BC or other provinces and get an idea of prices from that. The longer you look, the better chance of a better buy, so don't get in a hurry.
Buying a machine from someone who is retiring is a good thing, and you can get a feel by walking around his other equipment, how he looks after it. Sometimes it's just a clever tactic.
I'm guessing under 1/8" play in your tower pin is okay for what your doing, and anymore than that is going to be hard to live with. If both are worn, then it's probably unacceptable. I'm not a backhoe operator, maybe someone else will comment on that.
JCB's have a good reputation from what I've heard, but just don't have the resale value, in this area, when they are older. Hope I've helped. Phil:drinkup
JS580SL
12-28-2007, 06:01 PM
Over time you get use to the slop and if you feather the controls smoothly you wont even notice the slop digging in the open.
in tight areas is were you notice the slop, its still easily managable if your a smooth and fluent with the machine.
coopers
12-28-2007, 08:41 PM
JS is right, some slop isn't a big deal if you're smooth and used to operating the case controls. In my opinion, bucket slop is more annoying than tower movement because on top of the extra play when swinging your bucket keeps moving....just a tad annoying to me, but doable.
Blake
WA
JS580SL
12-28-2007, 11:46 PM
I have chopsticks for controls, haha.
coopers
12-29-2007, 02:54 PM
I have chopsticks for controls, haha.
cheater! ***
Blake
WA
Idigmywork
01-01-2008, 09:27 AM
I dont care what controls you have or pattern it is. :beatsme I dig around utilities everyday and slop anywhere in a backhoe (or any excavator) is a accident (or hit) waiting to happen... Response from operater input lagges or is delayed. :eek: Total presission control of machine movment is taken away no matter how good an operator is. :my2c
Case 590SM
2 Takeuchi track diggers
melben
01-17-2008, 07:06 AM
HMOVER, If you have a good Case dealer close buy the Case. They are tough machines. However a local dealer is probably more important than brand when you are looking used, at the price of fuel driving one hundred miles for parts doesn't make sense.
tonka
01-17-2008, 08:32 AM
HMOVER, If you have a good Case dealer close buy the Case. They are tough machines. However a local dealer is probably more important than brand when you are looking used, at the price of fuel driving one hundred miles for parts doesn't make sense.
Very good point!
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