View Full Version : Dug my first hole...
NateV
06-02-2007, 09:11 PM
Well today I actually dug my first hole with my dads backhoe. Iv been moving his stuff around for years, iv done stuff with the loader but not the hoe. The hole was 16x24 and around 4-5 deep for a water holding tank. My main problem was lining everything up to get the walls straight, other than that I was ok. I even like the 4 stick controls unlike some of you. Well here are some pics.
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/3023/2850149650061811874S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2850149650061811874zFcDxR)
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/6661/2991854890061811874S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2991854890061811874laCTZS)
Oh and I just graduated high school and will be going to school to learn more about equipment and get my cdl.
Also we were only less than a mile from the shop so dad decided I should drive it back. Well I didnt realize how hard it is to keep that thing in the right lane. Dad followed me and he told me it looked like I was drunk driving it.
Lastly I will say that i gained alot of knowledge today and respect. It really isnt as easy as it looks. I would always say all you do is pull leavers all day how hard can it be, but now i know.
nedly05
06-02-2007, 09:50 PM
Nice hole:thumbsup
mflah87
06-02-2007, 10:16 PM
Practice makes perfect. Case is a hard machine to run but once you get used to it you'll love it. To be honest with you I'd take the 4 stick over the wobble stick. I bought one case with wobble sticks and had it changed over to 4 stick. It feels like you have better control over the movement witht he 4 stick.
thejdman04
06-02-2007, 10:43 PM
Nice pics
rino1494
06-03-2007, 07:30 AM
Nice hole there.
JimBruce42
06-03-2007, 09:31 AM
Looks pretty good for your first hole.:notworthy If you don't mind my asking, where are you going to school?
I was pretty proud of the first hole I dug as well. Course mine was just for practice, took two days for me to dig and between the two days we got 3" of rain, but I'm still proud of it:drinkup .
NateV
06-03-2007, 11:36 AM
Thanks Guys
Jim, im going to New Castle school of trades.
Tn Bulldog
06-06-2007, 08:43 PM
My family ran the 480c 580Super E & 580Super K Models in our excavating business thats the brand what i was raised on the 1st R.T. Backhoe i learned how to run was operating a 580 Super E When i was 13yrs old .
i love a 3 & 4 stick verus the wobble the 1st wobble stick (excluding 215 Cat excavator) i ran i was 19yrs old & it took me 3 days to get the feel of em down i was cussing my granddad's buddys John deere 410 the whole time wanting a Case 3 or 4 stick ;) :D
nice Case & nice job on your 1st time :drinkup
later
Bulldog
Ford LT-9000
06-07-2007, 01:21 AM
The old style case controls are good you can feather the hydraulics easier than wobble sticks. You get the Case machines with the foot pedal swing that takes some time getting used to.
Wobble sticks in a backhoe is even alot different than a regular crawler excavator.
Rubber tired hoe is the hardest machine to run if you learn how to use one properly you can run anything.
As for roading backhoes down the road ya it can be a experience. When I roaded the 4x4x4 JCB I was running it gave me a scare. The first thing I learned was take the machine out of 4 wheel steer. I don't know how many miles I put on that machine.
CascadeScaper
06-07-2007, 04:21 AM
It's all about practice. I think the first backhoe I ran was when I was maybe 12 or 13. We rented a small Kubota B21 for some work and I dug a pretty decent hole with it. Well, at least I felt it was decent anyway. :cool2 Needless to say I'm much better now, but I prefer excavators to backhoes any day of the week, but that's just me. Like Ford said, if you can run a backhoe, you can run anything.
Tn Bulldog
06-07-2007, 08:21 PM
The old style case controls are good you can feather the hydraulics easier than wobble sticks. You get the Case machines with the foot pedal swing that takes some time getting used to.
Wobble sticks in a backhoe is even alot different than a regular crawler excavator.
Rubber tired hoe is the hardest machine to run if you learn how to use one properly you can run anything.
yup thats why i was cussing the J.D I Learned REAL QUICK THAT WOBBLES WERE DIFFERENT THAN TRACKHOE CONTROLS
As far as the Foot pedals i like em & as far as the backhoe being the hardest machine to run your right in my book but besides a tractor & pan thats the 1st thing i learned to run was a Case Backhoe 4 stick ;)
later yall
bulldog
tuney443
06-08-2007, 09:10 AM
The old style case controls are good you can feather the hydraulics easier than wobble sticks. You get the Case machines with the foot pedal swing that takes some time getting used to.
Wobble sticks in a backhoe is even alot different than a regular crawler excavator.
Rubber tired hoe is the hardest machine to run if you learn how to use one properly you can run anything.
As for roading backhoes down the road ya it can be a experience. When I roaded the 4x4x4 JCB I was running it gave me a scare. The first thing I learned was take the machine out of 4 wheel steer. I don't know how many miles I put on that machine.
One time I let my XXXwife run my old 3820 Cornbinder{huge 11 ton 4X4 hoe with rear wheel steer** down the road.She went about 1/4 mile--I think she XXXX her drawers---FUNNY
dirtmerchant542
06-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Keep up the good work! I work with all Case equipment and if I'm thrown on a Cat or any thing else I'm lost for awhile. These are some of the holes I'm use to diging working in downtown Philidelphia.
coopers
06-11-2007, 08:54 PM
Cool shots, is that an SL backhoe?
Blake
WA
dirtmerchant542
06-12-2007, 05:11 AM
Yes it is, 580SL
gordyo
07-10-2007, 07:39 PM
Also we were only less than a mile from the shop so dad decided I should drive it back. Well I didnt realize how hard it is to keep that thing in the right lane. Dad followed me and he told me it looked like I was drunk driving it.
I have a ride control switch on my JD 310G that somehow puts the loader arms into a float/dampener mode and takes the bounce out while roading the machine. You can watch the loader arms just go up and down adjusting to the bumps but the machine stays nice and smooth. No bouncing out of the seat and slamming your squash into the roof anymore, the front wheels actually stay on the ground.
sawerewolf
09-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Lol! I dont remember which of the holes I dug was my first but I'll tell you this much... Driving a CAT 424D over a speedbump at full speed (bout 40 or 45 km/h or up to 28miles/h if I done the convertion correctly) is sure not fun.
JS580SL
11-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Dirtmerchant those pics are really cool. I hope to be working in the city for while in the near future.
Nate you did a nice job. Im 19 and I can remember the first time a dad let me run the backhoe, old 416B when I was 8.Now we have 2000 Super L that I run mostly.
Id run that 580 over any new machine anyday of the week. I run with the 2stick control and Case has better feel in my mind over any other backhoe. I can run a 4stick ok.
NateV
11-03-2007, 09:04 PM
Thanks JS580SL
I kinda liked the 4 stick controls but dad just traded it in on a new M with pilot controls. Iv only played around at the shop with it so far but im kinda on the fence still about it. They seem to touchy to me but im sure in time i will get used to them.
mikef87
11-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Well today I actually dug my first hole with my dads backhoe. Iv been moving his stuff around for years, iv done stuff with the loader but not the hoe. The hole was 16x24 and around 4-5 deep for a water holding tank. My main problem was lining everything up to get the walls straight, other than that I was ok. I even like the 4 stick controls unlike some of you. Well here are some pics.
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/3023/2850149650061811874S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2850149650061811874zFcDxR)
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/6661/2991854890061811874S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2991854890061811874laCTZS)
Oh and I just graduated high school and will be going to school to learn more about equipment and get my cdl.
Also we were only less than a mile from the shop so dad decided I should drive it back. Well I didnt realize how hard it is to keep that thing in the right lane. Dad followed me and he told me it looked like I was drunk driving it.
Lastly I will say that i gained alot of knowledge today and respect. It really isnt as easy as it looks. I would always say all you do is pull leavers all day how hard can it be, but now i know.
I love the case 4 stick pattern. Much better than those damn wobble sticks.
d6catd
11-04-2007, 01:06 AM
:Cowboy howdy guys..i guess ill throw my two cents in i have run pretty much every backhoe out there and my favorite is the 420e. this is awesome it has the ride control like mentioned by someone so you feel absolutley nuthing while roden the machine and those pilot controls i wouldnt replace them for anything..as far a a backhoe being the hardest machine to run you guys are absolutley rite but when you know what your doing you can do almost anything and go almost anywhere..but im like you guys i like to switch things up and run two or three diff. pieces a day i mean think about it guys we have the best job in the world we get paid to play in the dirt for 10 or 12 hours a day i wouldnt trade it for anything in the world..as i like to say operators never grow up the toys and sandbox just get a whole lot bigger.:usa
JS580SL
11-04-2007, 11:17 AM
The pilot controls are nice in open areas but I myself dont like them much at all. Ive run Cases, Cats, and a 310SJ w/TMC. Case has been the only pilot controls Ive liked.
I wouldnt trade the mechanical controls for anything, you dont get the same feel and response.
iceberg210
11-07-2007, 07:47 PM
If you don't mind me asking what kind of crawler loader is on the far left hand side of the first picture?
Nice hole, backhoes are great machines jack of all trades master of none meaning you have to have pretty good talent to effectively operate them.
Smarty
11-07-2007, 08:00 PM
I finaly found a spot on our property that I can dig a hole. We have mostly solid sandstone but in this one area it's deep sand.
bucket
11-07-2007, 08:21 PM
Well today I actually dug my first hole with my dads backhoe. Iv been moving his stuff around for years, iv done stuff with the loader but not the hoe. The hole was 16x24 and around 4-5 deep for a water holding tank. My main problem was lining everything up to get the walls straight, other than that I was ok. I even like the 4 stick controls unlike some of you. Well here are some pics.
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/3023/2850149650061811874S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2850149650061811874zFcDxR)
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/6661/2991854890061811874S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2991854890061811874laCTZS)
Oh and I just graduated high school and will be going to school to learn more about equipment and get my cdl.
Also we were only less than a mile from the shop so dad decided I should drive it back. Well I didnt realize how hard it is to keep that thing in the right lane. Dad followed me and he told me it looked like I was drunk driving it.
Lastly I will say that i gained alot of knowledge today and respect. It really isnt as easy as it looks. I would always say all you do is pull leavers all day how hard can it be, but now i know.
Nice job bud, looks like you hang of it. I'm sure your dad is proud of you. My seven year old likes to sit behind the wheel and i can tell it wont be to long before he is out there diggin holes on his own. Have fun and be safe.:)
NateV
11-07-2007, 08:53 PM
If you don't mind me asking what kind of crawler loader is on the far left hand side of the first picture?
That would be our Cat 941B.
I have another pic here
http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showpost.php?p=47484&postcount=21
Thanks bucket i would always sit inside on the one fender and watch dad sometime and remember how excited i was to do that.
skata
11-07-2007, 09:02 PM
so what are wobble controls? 4 stick? :confused:
NateV
11-07-2007, 09:04 PM
so what are wobble controls? 4 stick? :confused:
No they are the 2 stick
JS580SL
11-07-2007, 09:06 PM
4 stick Case. swing with your foot pedals. levers in order go:
Bucket Dipper Boom Extendahoe
Wobble stick are just 2 lever controls in backhoe or excavator pattern.
33horse
11-09-2007, 12:13 PM
The best way to learn is to try. Back in my early 20s it seemed like no one would allow someone the chance to try their hand at a Backhoe, SO when someone invited me aboard, I jumped at the chance. Seemed like I was so uncoordinated, Now 35 years later I'll never forget my first attempt to dig a hole. Great memories. The only regret I've had with heavy equipment was nobody ever emphasized daily lubes. Now I spend most of my time repairing backhoes and farm equipment, I giveaway greaseguns to my customers with their bill.
I'm new to this forum;and it looks like a great forum,with a bunch of great people.Now,back to the topic I'm 14 but I remember when I was 9 someone put me on a backhoe and taught to operate it.That was the most amazing thing to me,now and then I still get the chance to run a backhoe or dozer but I have a lot of learning to do.One day I hope to be a full time operator after college.
Rx7thHeaven
12-04-2007, 07:56 PM
Nice, hope to be doing my first digging myself pretty soon.
danielm
12-07-2007, 12:08 PM
Anyone want to bring their backhoe over and practice? :D
Hopefully, I'll be diggin' with a backhoe in the near future.
Amen to the daily greasing.
dirtslinger
12-07-2007, 06:54 PM
Looks a lot better than the first trench I dug with a backhoe. 4' deep and about 300 feet long. Needed to merge it with an existing trench and the person who learned me up forgot to teach me the whole "trench straddling" technique. Needless to say 4 hours, 35 gray hairs, and a bucket full of swear words and laughs I managed to get myself out of the trench and gained a massive amount of knowledge. Now I really wish I had pics of it.
Just like sex...as much as you want to forget your first hole, you really never can.
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