new (USED) dump

[ctkiteboarding]

im looking for a six wheeler w a 12' dump,, id like a lift axle to get the gvw's up for registration,

i haul topsoil/fill/gravel and asphalt, i will also move equip on a 20t trailer,

i looked at a L9000 w a 240 cummins and a 10 speed

its super cln , has a 12 body w chutes and a barn door,,

90k on the odometer,, nice truck,, its reg at 40k now w a single axle? seems high,,

my question is what can i reg this truck at w/ a lift axle installed and will 240hp be capable to haul this weight without being a pig,

[Steve Frazier]

The safest answer will come from CT DOT. I think most manufacturer's specs max single axles at 34K. The lift axle will get you more but I don't know how much. My guess would be about 54K gross with the proper tires.

With 240 horse, you won't set and land speed records, but you'll get around ok. I used to gross 80K with 300 hp, it got me around ok. I wasn't the fastest on hills, but not the slowest either.

[Ford LT-9000]

It its got the 8.3 Cummins it should do fine heck look the tandem Fords that come with 240 Ford power those old 7.8 Ford engines screaming.

Nothing wrong with a Louisville Ford they had a bad problem with rust but otherwise I wouldn't be scared of one. I was going to buy a L-9000 tandem but there wasn't enough work to justify it.

[ctkiteboarding]

i like the truck, their is no rust, she looks like she has been well taken care of and with only 90k ,she has plenty of life left,
but i need the gvw's so a lift axle is a option,

I measured the truck today to be able to see if a lift axle will fit,,
cab to axle 95"
wheel base 160"
rear suspension(front mount) to rear of hydraulic tank 43"
rear suspension (front mount) to front of hyd tank 60"
i can relocate the hyd tank if need be,
Does anyone have exprience with a lift axle install? and any advice?
thanks in advance R

[Ford LT-9000]

You other option is buy a short wheelbase tandem then you have the best of both worlds the extra carrying capacity and the traction of another drive axle.

I'am not a big fan of lift axles I would rather have a conventional tandem over a truck with a drop axle. If you don't need a heavy tandem you can find yourself a 8000 Ford with 16,000 front and 40,000 rears or find your self a decent day cab truck tractor and put a short box on it.

By the time you buy a lift axle you could have put that money into a tandem with a manufactures gvw of 52,000lbs or what ever you find.

Single axle trucks are rarely used in my area but they do get used if you need to get in a tight spot. A Louisville tandem with a 222wb or 204 wheelbase goes anywhere especially one with regular steer tires they turn so sharp its unbelievable. You get a truck with double lockers in the rear it will leave any other brand truck behind.

[Steve Frazier]

I've driven trucks with lift axles, that's about it. They can cause a problem if you are in soft conditions, the lift axle can make the drive axle float in the mud even when it's in its raised position if the mud is deep enough. Most times it's ok though.

Many of the paving contractors in my area use 6 wheelers with lift axles, I guess to avoid the initial expense of a tandem. Long term there will be savings over a tandem as well in less tire wear on the lift axle (you raise it when empty) and your fuel mileage will be greater with a lift axle over a tandem as there is less drivetrain drag all the time.

[ctkiteboarding]

tandem trucks scuff big time when in tight places ,

the truck will be empty when moving equip , most of the time i wont even need to use the axle,
but if i do then i have it available,,
if i were to go tandem id go right to tri axle

i pave small driveways, the "tight" areas are pretty much every job i do,

10ton ,20ton max ,
any more then that i hire tri axles,,
my inter S1800 holds 7ton legal /10ton max
this truck will hold 15t max,
so if my jobs are 10 to 20t, its a nice step up ,
i dont want a triaxle ,just to big and costly to run,

[Ford LT-9000]

You also have to keep in mind a single axle with a drop axle will scuff just like a tandem and with the truck being so short the truck might not turn that well.

You must be in some awfully tight places if you are worried about scuffing the ground. The only blacktop company in the area uses a skid steer to move the asphalt for driveways. They have done quite a few driveways that way loading the spreader with the skid steer.

Here is something your thinking of

[jimmyjack]

hi ctkiteboarding, we have a L9000 at work,like the one your talking about six wheeler with a pusher. two seasons ago we were running two and one tri axle,sold the older one last year and bought two more tri axles, any way now we just use it to tow the paving trailer around. like the one your talking about its got a cummins with a 7spd works just fine, as long as only the trucks loaded or just the trailer its works its butt off trying to move both loaded.

btw its good for 52000# in RI, i think its a 12 foot body with 48 inch sides with 6inch side boards ( real pain trying to put 16 ton on at batch plants with out it spilling off the sides:Banghead oh yea even with the wheels up and loaded backing in to a tight spot the pusher wheels scuff, i think more than the tri axles do cause it so much shorter of a wheelbase

[Ford LT-9000]

Shorter the wheelbase and more rubber on the ground its tough turning. You can turn the wheel and the truck still goes straight :laugh

[jimmyjack]

yep made that mistake when i first started driving a tri axle , i forgot to pick the pusher axle up a couple of times in a intersection the truck goes straight:Banghead :Banghead

[ctkiteboarding]

its a trade off and i understand ,,
the short wheel base will be good when trailering ,
the lift will also add braking power,,

im going to try to get more info on the lift axle and in general,,

their is a good chance that i'll have to wait abit before the lift axle can be installed ,,
i think im going to offer the owner what he is asking for the truck but minus the cost of the lift axle install, and then wait abit to install it ,, ill post a pic in a day or so :usa R

[BKrois]

Theres a company who rents out of our yard who has a sterling 6 wheeler w/ a tag axle. I think the truck has an 11 or 12' body. Our 6 wheelers at work have 10' bodies and can carry 8.5 tons legal. The other companies sterling can carry 14 or 15 tons legal. Joseph Golia Services in stamford who sells a lot of topsoil is on his 2nd or 3rd international 6 wheeler with a tag axle. I think they're a hot setup for paving and tight places, only 1 or 2 feet longer than a regular 6 wheeler and almost twice the capacity.

[BKrois]

Heres a pic of a newer Peterbilt from stamford with a setup you're looking for.

[Ford LT-9000]

I don't know how you guys can run a truck that short with a lift axle that is too much concentrated weight in one area. Even with the axle lifted you wouldn't get down our driveways the drop axle would bottom out and lift the drive tires right off the ground. You could possibly bend the trucks frame in half :eek:

For us drop axles are illegal anyhow so we don't see them here only on tractors that run south of the boarder. Busses use a tag axle and trucks can use a fixed tag axle behind the rear drive axle.

[Steve Frazier]

:pointlaugh :umno

Trucks just like Bryan posted are very common, and I've yet to see one broken in half.

[ctkiteboarding]

ive seen that pete on I95 , as well as the internationals from gollia,,
nice trucks , big bucks,,

im in under 20k with this truck ,
i hope it will do all i ask and abit more,,
the lift axle will have to tuck up under the truck well and i hope to be ok ,

ive have been looking for a tri axle
but cln inexpensive truck is 40k easy

[Countryboy]

I don't know how you guys can run a truck that short with a lift axle that is too much concentrated weight in one area. Even with the axle lifted you wouldn't get down our driveways the drop axle would bottom out and lift the drive tires right off the ground.

And yet again your true color (green) is coming out. A shorter wheelbase truck will cross a higher crest without getting high centered than a longer wheelbase truck can.


You could possibly bend the trucks frame in half.

I think I need to see a picture of that before Im gonna buy that load of.....

[580bruce]

Boy I am with ya.How steep of a driveway would that be?Broken in half? WTF?

[Ford LT-9000]

When we take a conventional 222wb Ford down a driveway the fuel tanks and hydraulic tanks on the truck just clear the break over point.

The driveways have up to a 12% and steeper grade decent off of a public road. You should see the building supplies Hino lumber truck it was designed for a city the fuel tank has been caved in the tool box ripped off, hydraulic lines ripped off. Its all from the break over angle at the crest of the driveway. A tandem axle with walking beam suspension the front drive axle usually bottoms out on the axle stops.

A short wheelbase truck like that with the lift axle the front wheels will drop then the lift axle takes all the load for a few seconds untill the rear axle takes the load again.

Some of the driveways are so steep a fully loaded tandem axle redimix truck 57,420lbs with both axles locked up can't climb the driveway without wheelspin.

If you do try put 15 ton on a single axle how are you supposed to keep the front axle legal ?

Most single axle trucks at the most have a 12,000lb rated front axle for trucks in B.C. the gov't requires a 18 or 20,000 capacity front axle in a tandem axle dump truck to carry a legal load of 15 ton. A tandem axle with a 12,000lb front axle is only legal for 10 ton.

You would have to upgrade the front axle and suspension would also need to run 445/65R22.5 supersingle steers to get enough front axle rating.

Its up to if you need more hauling capacity get a truck designed to haul more. A tandem axle truck with a 14 foot box is going to go where a single axle truck will go. If your on a jobsite with a single axle with a drop axle lifted with 14 ton in the box you know how hard that is on the wheelbearings and wheel studs ?

Had a local guy with a 5 ton Ford his truck has dayton wheels on it he hauls heavy loads on it and the spoke cracked on the rear axle the wheels come loose. He grosses 38,000lbs on a single axle which isn't legal.

[Countryboy]

You should see the building supplies Hino lumber truck it was designed for a city the fuel tank has been caved in the tool box ripped off, hydraulic lines ripped off. Its all from the break over angle at the crest of the driveway.

Its not the trucks fault. The driver should know the trucks limits. If the truck was pushed past its limits then how are you to blame the design of the truck for the broken parts?


Had a local guy with a 5 ton Ford his truck has dayton wheels on it he hauls heavy loads on it and the spoke cracked on the rear axle the wheels come loose. He grosses 38,000lbs on a single axle which isn't legal.

I know you aren't complaining about somebody overloading a truck to where it starts breaking things.......that could be misconstrued as ignorance on both parties.

[jimmyjack]

I don't know how you guys can run a truck that short with a lift axle that is too much concentrated weight in one area. Even with the axle lifted you wouldn't get down our driveways the drop axle would bottom out and lift the drive tires right off the ground. You could possibly bend the trucks frame in half :eek:
here in the northeast part of the country most states don't use bridge -law for weight /wheelbase. example the last truck i drove was a 86 R model mack ten wheeler with a 14 foot body the truck had 18front and 58 rears so it was good for 76000#s. and they wonder why the roads around here get so beat up

[Ford LT-9000]

Years ago one of the local contractors had a short Mack dump it would go anywhere but it used to ruin driveways. One driveway which was concrete cracked all over the homeowner wasn't happy.

For us minimum space between the back of the steer tires and front of drive tire is about 116 inches that goes for tandems and tridrives.

You guys must be going into extremely tight areas if you need to run a single axle.

[ctkiteboarding]

i need a truck to haul my excavator , the short wheel base and extra breaking is really nice for that ,, the other issue is that when i need a full 10 yards of topsoil i can load the truck and not ever worry about the overweight ticket,, and for the few times a year ill need a full load of black top i can squeeze 14T,

i see why guys dont want the clearance issue w a lift axle and the heavy weight issue w short wheel base,,

for me the ten wheeler might as well be a tri axle at least i can sub that type of truck out when im not using it but then ill be in the trucking business and thats not in my short term plan,
but maybe in a few, ya never no

[Ford LT-9000]

I would prolly just leave the truck as a single axle the customer is paying you by the hour for the truck. If the job they have you doing is too tight for a regular tandem then they have to pay up.

A single axle dump gets 69 dollars per hour and a tandem axle dump gets 80 per hour a 1.5 ton truck like mine gets 50 dollars per hour.

[ctkiteboarding]

i dont rent my trucks out normally, i just deliver my materials to the job as well as machines
i would to wait abit for the lift axle to be installed but i want to register the truck at its max. with the lift axle,
i guess i could re reg it but dmv is a PITA:Pointhead ,
we will have to see,i made an offer on the truck ,, i hope to hear something soon R

[Ford LT-9000]

You must charge the customer your working for move in charges and charges for bringing the materials to the site. If you registered the truck for the total weight of your truck and trailer then you should be covered.

What is the lift axles capacity is it 20,000lbs ? or are you going with a single wheel on each side drop axle like a fixed steer axle is that good for 12,000lbs ?

[ctkiteboarding]

my work is based on bids and its a fix cost for material etc. i guess in a way i do charge for the trucking but on most jobs its a fix cost,, i get delivery fees for topsoil and misc stone etc ,, when they are abit far,,,
as for the lift axle, im looking into it ,,20k is the way i want to go but ill no more when i talk to ridewell as duke suggested

[ctkiteboarding]

heres a pic, its going to be a tight fit,
the body is 11' long not 12' ,
im thinking it might not be the truck for me,,, here is another local truck with a similar set up but in a L8000 spec

[jmac]

I would think about a bigger truck. I did the same thing the first time and found out that I needed at least a 55k pound truck with 16 yard box. After I went thru the trouble of finding that truck and putting it to work I now think I should of went tri axle. The reason is that my truck is in demand all the time and if I have a slow day I can always do some trucking and make some money with it. Why have the truck sit if you can use it. If I had the single axle I would never have any work for it but my own. If the money is close get the biggest truck you can find and sub it out if you have no work of your own for it.

[Ford LT-9000]

If I was buying the gray Ford I would leave it as it is personally I can see any benefit putting a drop axle on the truck.

It is a nice clean looking truck and it has floats on the front and aluminum rims all the way around. It looks like a owner operator truck being that clean etc.

Like jmac says I would still look for bigger truck you should have a tandem.

[ctkiteboarding]

the grey L9000 is 16k , the least expensive tri axle ive seen is 40k and its got lots of miles , if i were to go tri axle id have to spend 45 to 60k :eek: ,

im going to look around abit , the transportation of my excavator is the biggest issue, then the haul capacity,,
im not in a rush so ill shop around some more ,

i think you are right to leave it as it is , its gvw is 40500k so 10t 11t should be legal and the 11' box will hold that easy,

[BKrois]

Theres a pretty clean 1980 R model tri-axle in this weeks truck trader for $18,500 with a newer body on it. The guy is from rocky hill and is always selling stuff. That Ford for $16k is a little overpriced. The red one looks clean, is that truck in norwalk? The septic truck in the back ground looks like it could be Pease Septic from new cannan.

[BKrois]

Heres a picture of Golias truck. As i mentioned, this is his 2nd or 3rd truck setup like this.

[jmac]

But why spend all that money and have such a small payload? Maybe I am missing somthing? Please make me smarter :confused:

Nice looking truck !! :D

[BKrois]

Smaller payload how? That truck is legal for 53k gvw. Lets say light weight is around 20k or so. Thats leaves 33k lbs for material which is 16.5 tons or say 12 yards.

[ctkiteboarding]

i hear ya on a older mack ,,, but im looking for a short wb truck to haul my machine,, , im using a inter w/ 190hp now to haul my TLB , im guessing 18k,, it has worked but no way can i haul 30k,, i need air brakes , more HP and if im lucky i can load 10T and be legal,

thats a really nice international golia has,,, what did he do with his older ones??? that truck has gotta be 80k:eek:

[jmac]

Ok, so you can put 12 yards in the truck maybe, it looks like 9 yards will fit, but what people want is 18 yards. If I get a call to deliver material that customer is expecting me to bring 16 to 18 yards. The cost of running the truck is very close with 12 yards on it or 18 yards so more material you bring the more money you make. If the job is by the hour and say my truck is loaded out by an excavator than why would they use a truck that can haul 12 yards when everyone else can haul 16 yards? You still have to get the same price per hour. If I am going to spend 75k like that truck cost than why not move the most material I can with it to help pay for it. I am no expert but size does matter. I was asked to do some trucking for a large project a few weeks back. I get to the job and I am one of about 6 trucks on the site. All the trucks are tri axles except mine. My truck hauls 15 yards and the tri haul 16 to 17 yards. We all are getting the same price per hour. At the end of the day they tell me that it is not fair to the other drivers to haul more than me and get paid the same so they can't use me. Use the truck for trucking, that is what it was intending for and if that is the case buy a truck that you can use for the intended purpose and make money on your investment.
Feel free to correct me.

[ctkiteboarding]

the grey L9000 is 16k , the least expensive tri axle ive seen is 40k and its got lots of miles , if i were to go tri axle id have to spend 45 to 60k :eek: ,

im going to look around abit , the transportation of my excavator is the biggest issue, then the haul capacity,,
im not in a rush so ill shop around some more ,

i think you are right to leave it as it is , its gvw is 40500k so 10t 11t should be legal and the 11' box will hold that easy,

money and wheel base are the limiting factors for me

[ctkiteboarding]

this just showed up from a search 12k is priced right 210 hp??? great engine but POWER??

[ctkiteboarding]

then their is this one for 18k

[jimmyjack]

i'd go with that red one its already a pusher, looks pretty nice.or keep lookin cause you know once u buy one you'll find one better:Banghead

[Ford LT-9000]

Isn't that aways the way you settle on a truck that doesn't quite suit your needs because you searched for months and you decided to buy the truck. Shortly after the truck you were looking for turns up that is so frigging frustrating :spaz

I still think a tandem axle is a better idea even if its a short wheelbase tandem atleast it come from the manufacture with the proper gvw and spec's.

If your worried about tire scrub you run a milder treaded tire you could even run a lug tread on the main drive axle and a all-position tire on the front drive axle.

Have you thought about a cab over dump truck like a MR Mack they turn good I used to drive one. They are a heavy spec'ed truck.

[ctkiteboarding]

im still looking , the red L8000 is not for sale or id buy that one ,,, if the owner of the grey L9000 would come down in price i would own it by now,,, im looking:drinkup

[nedly05]

That grey ford is neat, I like the floats up front, what are the specs on it? I know a logger who runs 2 GMC 7500 single axles with pushers. They are legal for 53,000. We were working on a road where they were logging, and these guys just drove right in no problem. I think that if they were getting around this well up in the mountains than you would never have too much trouble down in CT. We had a tandem that had a GVW of 54,000. I used to haul 12 yards on it, but it wasnt legal.
Jmac:are you legal with 18 ton on a 55K GVW truck? I know a guy with a fleet of tandems that are licensed for 66K and he has to get a permit to haul 18.5.
I think that a "tag-tandem" would be closer to legal with 12 yards than our tandem was. They are a neat set-up, but the driver needs to use his/her head. If you arent running a truck with a jake than you need to be thinking about stopping, you have one less braking axle than a tandem with comparable weight. Not a truck I would put a rookie into. I would try to find one with a high lift pusher, or a smaller tire like the red ford, although that red one may only have a 10K pusher. GOOD LUCK. If that grey ford has good specs, (big motor/jake, 10 speed or so, 12 fronts 23 rears....) I wouldnt hesitate to go for it if you can get it for a price you like, then you have a truck to tow your machine, and you can always sell it or trade it if a better one comes along!:my2c

[jmac]

Nedly05, I would be about 6k lbs over. Thats my point. If I had to do over again I would of went to a tri-axle from the start. Now if I want to be competitive I have to install a pusher and buy a larger box. My truck is the same (specs except for the pusher) as the other old Mack tri-axles except for the pusher and 18 yrd box. I do put 15 to 17 ton in it all the time and the truck feels fine, so the truck can handle the weight no problem. I registered it for 54k lbs ( no fed tax) but could go 56k lbs w/o pusher. 18k front and 38k rears. With a pusher could go 76k lbs. but my box is a low profile box so I don't think I can fit 16-18 yards in it if I wanted to, unless I bought a new box.

Buy the correct truck from the start. :drinkup
Don't do like I did and have to go thru 3 trucks before you buy the right one.

[ctkiteboarding]

the grey ford is heavy spec , 40,500 gvw from the factory
the lift axle will add 20k ,so i guess i could reg to 60k ,,

the L10 is at 240hp:( which id like more , it has a 10speed with a 2 stage jake,
i can get the lift with brakes and with a deep drop axle and lo pro tires ill get 7" of ground clearance when empty ,,
im still looking and i dont think the owner of the grey dump is going less the 16k which sucks i offered him 12 on his 18,500 asking price:eek: ,,
the lift axle will be 5k when all done,,

if i do buy it ill leave it alone for now and maybe turn up the L10 to get 280hp out of her which should not be that costly,
its a nice truck,

i have 2 internationals now a 4900 at 26k for my bucket truck and one S1800 dump at 26k both with juice brakes, thats what i use to move my TLB but it is not going to do more then that, ive had 10t on her but with 190hp and juice brakes its slow going,, id kinda like to stay with international:usa .

im still looking, i found a inter 8100 w a 14' dump 280hp 8LL for 25k, it is a road conversion:badidea with high miles and a longer wheel base,,

id prefer a dump spec from the get go ,, im going to keep looking,, then maybe offer the grey dump 14k?? i dont think he will take it:beatsme ,
things are abit slow , you would think he would grab the cash but he is a builder not a contractor and i dont think he needs the cash ,

here are my internationals the dump has a removable chipper top on her R

[nedly05]

How many miles on that ford, for 16 grand with those specs, I don't think thats a bad deal. It's tough to find a good used dump, most of them get worked hard and put away wet.

[ctkiteboarding]

How many miles on that ford, for 16 grand with those specs, I don't think thats a bad deal. It's tough to find a good used dump, most of them get worked hard and put away wet.

90k its a cln dump

[Steve Frazier]

The L-10 can be turned up to 300 hp without much trouble, we had them at the distribution center I worked at. The early ones were problematic with head gaskets, but they got that worked out in the first couple years.

[Ford LT-9000]

The L-10 is good for 300hp the biggest benefit about having a L-10 is it has JAKE capability which you will want. A truck with a potato in the exhaust pipe aka exhaust brake is no comparison to a full JAKE.

The JAKE on the L-10 hold back really good they are a little on the loud side the L-10 has a distinctive sound.

[ctkiteboarding]

The L-10 is good for 300hp the biggest benefit about having a L-10 is it has JAKE capability which you will want. A truck with a potato in the exhaust pipe aka exhaust brake is no comparison to a full JAKE.

The JAKE on the L-10 hold back really good they are a little on the loud side the L-10 has a distinctive sound.

this truck has a jacob on it now , seems to work well but i only drove it for a bit

[nedly05]

You can't beat a jake for stopping, that L-10 in a s/a will hold back nicely. However if you end up with a motor that will only take an exhaust brake, they work very well too. We have exhaust brakes on both of our fire trucks, and I am impressed. They are a 38 K GVW with the DT530 @ 330 HP they lack a little going up hill,but that exhaust brake will hold you back more than you want coming down!!

BUUUTTTT!!!! For 16 Grand buy that grey ford and don't look back, quit thinkin' about it or i'm gonna come get it!!!***
(It's a nice truck for the money I think)

[ctkiteboarding]

im lucky to be able to look abit more , most likely ill grab it this week,

id still would like to recover some of the cost of the lift right when i buy it , 14k would seal the deal ,,, :)

[nedly05]

Bring him cash, maybe that will make him think twice :yup

[ctkiteboarding]

i think my chance to show the cash and get a better deal has passed ,
ive been to the truck 3 times ,measuring for the lift axle and getting vin# etc. he wanted 18,500
when i offered him 12k he did not smile, then we haggled abit to the "middle " or so, he came down 2500 and i have to come up 4000 ,
750 bucks from a 50/50 split is pretty good , i think the heavy spec's are worth the extra cash , now ill have to go pay him if i want the truck :jawdrop

[Ford LT-9000]

I don't know what you guys are squeeling about thats a pretty good deal for a good shaped Ford.

Seeing the picture with the hood up and the engine jammed under in there brought back bad memories :eek:

Thats the only problem with the Louis Fords is doing engine work is on the tough side I spent many hours jammed bettween the tire and frame :cussing

I rather worked on the Fords than the backwards Internationals with the nightmare wiring.

Well hopefully you get the truck :yup

[ctkiteboarding]

your right, i agree its a good price and id want that (at a minimun) if i was the seller,,
not squeling, just B.S.'n on the fourm,,
it just sucks when u buy and a week later the "deal" you had been waiting for shows:Pointhead

hahahah
thats life,,:usa

[Ford LT-9000]

I don't think you can go wrong with the Ford it looks like its in good shape which are pretty hard to find. Usually the cab has a serious case of orange cancer which the Fords and any other steel cab truck suffers from.

Old Macks are really bad the door sill from the curve on the back of the cab to the front cab mount rots away.

I don't think your going to find a much cleaner truck for the price range you are in. When I was out looking at tandem axle dumps anything under 30 grand was site trucks. Before the boom started you could get a decent used truck for 20-25 not anymore.

Good Luck

[ctkiteboarding]

ill grab it this week if nothing else pops up,,, the next topic will be how to turn the L10 up hahahahah:D :D :drinkup

[nedly05]

GET IT MAN it's a slick truck!!

[sbrem]

So, did you buy it??

[ctkiteboarding]

So, did you buy it??
sticking to my offer ,, mostly because thats all have right now, we are trying to work it out ,:usa we will see

[ctkiteboarding]

I still cant get the guy to work with me on price,,, so i looked at another truck this weekend,,, 20k for this KW w/ 315 cummings and 8LL

[jazak]

That Kenworth looks like a nicer truck :D

[jimmyjack]

go with kw much nicer trucks:cool:

[fhdesign]

That kw is a nice looking truck, is the body big enough?

[ctkiteboarding]

the KW has the hp but with the lower sides id need some custom side boards to get a full load,, the ford will hold more material for sure,,

[jmac]

The Kenworth looks like a OTR tractor. Would of been nice if they put just a little bigger box on it. What's the front axle rated for?
Very hard to find a truck! I feel your pain! Went thru the same thing. Look at tandems, more of them around. Do you have a CDL?

[ctkiteboarding]

12 /21?? on the axles , the body is heated 10' ,,custom side boards would help but its not the 11' body w/ high sides and barn door/ 3 chutes like on the ford:( , i would of bought it already if it was,, im still looking no big rush but its april and work has just started for me, I have my cdl :usa

[nedly05]

That KW is sharp, and for 20 grand it looks really nice. You have a nack for finding nice single axles! Our single axle is in the shop getting a paint job, just had air dump controls put on, man is that slick can't wait to get haulin' gravel and knockin' over grade stakes :woohoo

[Orchard Ex]

Looks good. Specs seem good for a 10 foot'er. That would abandon the tag axle addition though right?

My Pete is set up similarly but with 30" sides. With a 12" board a full body = legal load with most materials I move so it keeps me out of trouble.:)

[ctkiteboarding]

yea no room for the tag on the KW and the body is small....
270K on the cummins 315 , must of been a road truck, converted,, its a nice truck but still just does not quite fit what im looking for,,, colors is a match thou:) still looking

[nedly05]

you buy anything yet???

[ctkiteboarding]

you buy anything yet???

found two more ,,:beatsme

,,, i like the inter but a dt 466 w/ 210hp is under powered for sure, the guy with the grey l9000 emailed me and lowered his price to 14k:) ,

i had to used some of the alotted cash to keep the ship afloat so to speak,,
i told him this and that i needed a few weeks of spring work to get going then i might be able to get the 12k i offered ,, we will see ,,, as i said before im in no rush,,, but it is a sweet little dump for the money

[nedly05]

You find a lot of nice trucks, what do you use to search for them?

[ctkiteboarding]

You find a lot of nice trucks, what do you use to search for them?

thier on the net and local paper etc.

[ctkiteboarding]

figured id resurect this thread, finally bought a truck , fl80 cat 3126 300hp 8ll 12 dump with barn door , time to clean her up and off to the paint shop:usa

[Aussie Leroy]

Well done ctkiteboarding look like a nice truck hope she goes well .cheers Leroy :drinkup

[nedly05]

Very nice, congrats! I'm interested to see how that configuration works out, I've always like a single axle with a pusher!

[jmac]

congrats on your new truck, very nice!

[shadow]

I was looking at get a 6 wheeler with a lift and was wondering what size engine you need to pull 54000lbs. And how much dose a new truck coast. what truck is better a full tandam or a six with a lift. I work for a company that has a 20000lbs machince that is towed now with a 550 and we also haul a lot of materiel. i was thinking that a stright six is too small but a i would feel dumb with 3 tons of sand on a ten or triaxle

[shadow]

I was wondering if 160,000$ new is about how much these trucks coast

[mitch504]

The disadvantage to a single screw w/ a liftable axle is much less traction, they will get stuck on a banana peel

[ctkiteboarding]

ready to roll :D :usa

[shadow]

how are you likeing the truck

[shadow]

Why are so many used trucks axle out so they do not meet the standers for axle weight the dot put out there. Are truck like this over register for weight and you could still get an over weight ticket. For exaple a ten wheeler has 14000lbs front axle and 46000lbs rears witch is 60000lbs but in the state of ct the back can only hold 36000lbs and the front is allow 14000 witch would give the truck a gross weight of 50000lbs even thought it is registered now for 53800lbs so if the truck is stop it is 3800lbs over axle weight. how would you get this truck up to its maxim weight it can weigh would the be to replace the front axle with a 18000lbs axle.

So the six wheelers with a lift axle the axle should hold 20000lbs on the steer and 20000lbs on the lift and 36000 on the rear drive so when you back in on one axle you don't break it. This would be the only way to get the full 53800lbs weight allowed on a 3 axle dump truck

For the new 6 with a lift could you find 24.5in tire and rims for the steer that support 18000lbs and low pro 19.5in dual rims a tire for the lift a 18000 and 24.5in rims and tier for the drive that support over 30000lbs

[ctkiteboarding]

truck has been great , i never really put alot of time into the weights per rim and axle, the front is 16k, id have to look to confirm, truck is reg at 53k , seems to hold that very well , i think she would be fine at 60k but the reg isn't their so im at 51k 52k when i run the highway, this is a local truck for the most part , all good questions , hell if i know the answer

[shadow]

when you back in do you lift the axle

[ctkiteboarding]

with 15t on no

[shadow]

have you taken the truck off road and has it ever gotten stuck. Do you know how well they perform on new house job sites on just drit when its resinble dry not mud

[ctkiteboarding]

have you taken the truck off road and has it ever gotten stuck. Do you know how well they perform on new house job sites on just drit when its resinble dry not mud

id get a ten wheeler, much better

[shadow]

i would feel dump with a ten wheel with 3tons of sand in the back with all the extra tiers on the ground

[shadow]

how long is your truck from the center of the front axle to the pintail hook

[ctkiteboarding]

with my hoe on board



shadow 218":usa

[mitch504]

Is that a multi-max type trailer, i.e. 8 tires on 4 short axles?

[ctkiteboarding]

yes its a 1982 12ton built by a company named custom trailer it has custom 12 welded to the back so i guess thats the model,,, been a very good trailer ive owned it since 1989, the middle deck has a larger hatch to access the inside tires makes it easy to change other then unloading :(