Heavy Equipment Forums http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/ This is a discussion forum powered by HeavyEquipmentForums. To find out , go to http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/ . en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:00:10 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/images/misc/rss.jpg Heavy Equipment Forums http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/ JCB 208s 1CX starter motor questions http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15473&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:13:52 GMT I own a 1998 JCB 208s and I'm pretty sure the starter and solenoid have gone bad. I have been having more difficulty each time I have had to start the machine, until the other day when I smelt I slight burn coming from under the hood. Anyways, I checked my battery and it is fully charged and I am getting 12v at the ignition wire. When I jump across the two terminals on the solenoid, I get sparks but nothing runs, and when I check for voltage with one lead in the braided cable (coming off the positive on the solenoid) and one lead connected to negative, I do not get any reading when I try to start the machine.

First, am I correct in my assessment that the starter motor and solenoid are both bad (sorry, I'm pretty new to troubleshooting my own equipment)?

Second, if they need replaced, is there an easy way to get to them without removing the engine? It seems that the starter motor is blocked in there pretty good, and I can't find a relatively easy way. I don't think it is directly accessible from under the hood without first removing the exhaust manifold and exhaust components, but I'm not sure if that is the proper way to do it. Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.

And finally, can anyone confirm if a Perkins part number: 2873K405 is the right starter motor for a 208s with a serial number in the 752500 range?

Thanks. ]]> Tractor/Loader/Backhoes bbjr http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15473 1997 621b trans problem http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15472&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:11:59 GMT this machine will work for a little whle then it looses all gears. wont move. let it sit for half hour and it works again. fluid is ok and clean and smells normal. shifter was changed a few years back cause it broke mechanically. speed sensor on side of trany was changed 2 years ago. machine... this machine will work for a little whle then it looses all gears. wont move. let it sit for half hour and it works again.
fluid is ok and clean and smells normal.
shifter was changed a few years back cause it broke mechanically.
speed sensor on side of trany was changed 2 years ago.
machine was use in salt before i got it maybe 5 years ago.

im thinking a bad ground someware?

is there a chart or something of common causes for this?

when it works it works normal. and either all gears work or none.

which sensors can cause this ? for example the parking brake switch. ]]> Wheel Loaders auto2 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15472 Man killed by dozer http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15471&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:17:09 GMT I heard about this on the national news at 11am this morning. It would seem that the guy was either an operator or fitter, and not a member of the public. The news report is all I know at this time. My thoughts are with the mans family. PLEASE take care out there guys. It is all to easy... I heard about this on the national news at 11am this morning.

It would seem that the guy was either an operator or fitter, and not a member of the public.

The news report is all I know at this time.

My thoughts are with the mans family.

PLEASE take care out there guys. It is all to easy to get it wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8370476.stm

cut and pastedBeach worker killed by bulldozer

Mr Streeter was working with another man on the sea defences
A man has died from his injuries after he was run over by a bulldozer as he worked on a beach in West Sussex.

Police were called to West Sands Caravan Park, in Selsey, just before 0700 GMT to reports Michael Streeter had become trapped beneath the vehicle.

Mr Streeter, aged 60, from St Nicholas Road, Portslade, Brighton, was rescued by firefighters and taken to hospital by ambulance where he died.

He had been working on the sea defences on behalf of the Environment Agency.

A spokesman for the South East Coast Ambulance Service said: "We spoke to him on the phone and he was quite lucid, talking to our call operator but because of the nature of the injuries we believe he suffered a sudden cardiac arrest.

"The tide was coming in and the fire crew had to act quite quickly to get him out of harms way."

The incident is being investigated by Sussex Police and the Health and Safety Executive.

Slightly different report.

http://www.wscountytimes.co.uk/448/B...rry.5844008.jp

cut and pastedBeach worker killed by bulldozer


Bulldozer driver dies on Medmerry BeachPremium Article ! »View GalleryPublished Date: 20 November 2009
A man has been run over by his own bulldozer and killed on Medmerry Beach in Selsey today (Friday November 20).
The 60-year-old man was thought to be carrying out shingle replenishment work on the beach at 7am today.

Fire services and paramedics were called to the scene, but sadly the Environment Agency employee died in hospital after freeing himself from underneath the vehicle.

Toby Willison, Environment Agency Southern Regional Director, said: "We are deeply saddened by the news that a contractor working on behalf of the Environment Agency has died in an accident.

"It happened this morning - Friday 20th November - on the beach at West Sands Caravan Park, Selsey.

"Police were called to the beach shortly before 7am, after reports that a 60-year old man had been trapped by a bulldozer on which he was working.

"Initial reports suggested that he had freed himself and he was taken to St Richards Hospital, Chichester, where he was pronounced dead. The man was a contractor working on behalf of the Environment Agency, on routine shingle maintenance at the beach.

"We wish to express our deepest sympathies to all those affected by this tragic accident.

"The circumstances are being investigated by police and the Health & Safety Executive and a report will be submitted to the West Sussex Coroner. We shall, of course, offer any assistance to help with their enquiries." ]]> Safety Issues AtlasRob http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15471 laser receiver mounting on dozers http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15470&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:05:35 GMT Had a quick question about mounting a laser receiver on a dozer...

Currently i just welded a 1 1/2" drive coupling to the outside corner pocket on my D6R's blade and screwed in the pipe that held the reciever. This met my hopes of being simple and removable for when i didnt want the rod mounted to the blade. Also the drive coupling was out of the action and not likely to get bent/damaged.

The issue came that with enough vibration the weakest part of the pipe was the threads and eventually they gave out.

Has anybody seen a simple, easy, stout, removable way of mounting a recieving rod to dozer that they've been happy with?

someone around here is smarter than me trying to reinvent the wheel...

thanks in advance. ]]> Dozers KMB83 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15470 580k Hood Latch System http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15469&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:33:11 GMT Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you 580k Series 1 owners could snap some pictures of your hood latch system. Mine is all but missing and I cant make heads or tails of the parts diagrams. I'm hoping some pics will let me see how this is all suposed to fit together.

Thanks In Advance! ]]> Tractor/Loader/Backhoes Bartlanz http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15469 Labor rate, Tech pay http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15468&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:26:09 GMT Curious as to what labor rates are charged in different areas. Also ball part figure on what companies are paying techs - hourly or flat rate? Were around $85 hr. Cat is $105 so were on the bottom end. Paying $25 flat rate hr. Also how is mileage charged? Seems like a thousand different... Curious as to what labor rates are charged in different areas. Also ball part figure on what companies are paying techs - hourly or flat rate?

Were around $85 hr. Cat is $105 so were on the bottom end. Paying $25 flat rate hr.

Also how is mileage charged? Seems like a thousand different ways to figure it.

Thanks ]]> General Industry Questions GOINGBROKE http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15468 <![CDATA["hydraulic implement filter not connected"]]> http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15467&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:25:18 GMT I am getting this message all of a sudden on my T300. I called the service dept at my local Bobcat place and they say to just replace the sensor ($80). Thoughts? I am getting this message all of a sudden on my T300. I called the service dept at my local Bobcat place and they say to just replace the sensor ($80).

Thoughts? ]]> Skid Steers Gixxer600 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15467 Dresser 515C Hard steering http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15466&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:18:35 GMT working on a Dresser 515C. Steers reasonably well to right, hard and slow to left. Need to be moving to steer to left with load. Have 3000+ psi to steer cylinder for the right turn and 1000 psi for the left steer. Any suggestions would be great Thanks working on a Dresser 515C. Steers reasonably well to right, hard and slow to left. Need to be moving to steer to left with load.
Have 3000+ psi to steer cylinder for the right turn and 1000 psi for the left steer.
Any suggestions would be great

Thanks ]]> Wheel Loaders GOINGBROKE http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15466 <![CDATA[Company Logo's]]> http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15465&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:24:48 GMT I thought I would pose the question, for all of you colllectors that have a 'fictional' earth moving company, do you have a logo? Lets see em! I'll start us off, Ohio Trucking & Excavating.....:drinkup
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]]> Models and Miniatures D5G http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15465 Belly dump question , on road http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15464&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:31:00 GMT I am wondering when the first on road belly dump trailers were made , me and a buddy have a little wager going , I say they were first made in the late 50's early 60's he says they werent made until the mid 70's, anyone know when they were made ? anyone have pics of them? Thanks ]]> Trailers CAT D9H http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15464 D7E Cat For Sale http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15463&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:23:51 GMT D7E Caterpillar crawler bulldozer , hyd manual angle blade , power shift , good undercarriage , #25 cable control unit , non rops . Engine has water pressure problems , will push water up stack . S/N 48A 2383 D7E Caterpillar crawler bulldozer , hyd manual angle blade , power shift , good undercarriage , #25 cable control unit , non rops . Engine has water pressure problems , will push water up stack . S/N 48A 2383 ]]> Equipment For Sale/Wanted dozerbill57 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15463 D9G Cat For Sale http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15461&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:53:30 GMT D9G Caterpillar Crawler Bulldozer , S/N66A4993 , full U blade , good undercarriage , transmission , good appearance , Rops . Will start and run , but engin oil pressure drops . Metal in oil filter . $9,500.00 D9G Caterpillar Crawler Bulldozer , S/N66A4993 , full U blade , good undercarriage , transmission , good appearance , Rops . Will start and run , but engin oil pressure drops . Metal in oil filter . $9,500.00 ]]> Equipment For Sale/Wanted dozerbill57 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15461 7000 Ford Service Truck http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15460&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:38:57 GMT 7000 Ford Service Truck , 1986 , 3208 Cat engine , 5 speed with 2 speed rear end , tail gate , all door on service body , 4,000 lb. auto crane . Clean cab , all mirrors , all glass good . Out rigger jacks on rear . Truck has Hyd . brakes. $7,500.00 7000 Ford Service Truck , 1986 , 3208 Cat engine , 5 speed with 2 speed rear end , tail gate , all door on service body , 4,000 lb. auto crane . Clean cab , all mirrors , all glass good . Out rigger jacks on rear . Truck has Hyd . brakes. $7,500.00
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]]> Equipment For Sale/Wanted dozerbill57 http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15460 JCB 210s Wiring Problems http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15459&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:38:52 GMT :Banghead *JCB wiring problem !* :Banghead My brother-in-law has a 210s up at his camp // future house in Maine. Machine always worked great and has forks, backhoe buckets, and a great loader. Last year apparently he had a wiring melt-down in the harness as it runs from the cab to the... :Banghead JCB wiring problem ! :Banghead

My brother-in-law has a 210s up at his camp // future house in Maine. Machine always worked great and has forks, backhoe buckets, and a great loader.

Last year apparently he had a wiring melt-down in the harness as it runs from the cab to the engine compartment. Whoever routed the harness the way they did through the unit sure didn’t do a good job on this one.

I went up and looked at it to see if I could help him out. WOW.. it was bad. He had already tried repairing everything, but it just fired again.

I started to jack-up the cab a little to get some of the harnesses out. Got a few pulled here and there, but WOW-WOW a lot of carbon and oxidized copper.

Why do the JCB’ers wire the way they do? It looks like they have everything wired all the way to the switched item, and then send another wire back to their common ground as well. SO to switch a bulb you would have a thin wire coming off of the post for the starter, running all the way back (around all of the cab’s sharp and/or vibrating corners) to the dash board –to the switch, then return all the way to the light bulb, then return from there all the way back to ground.

Why didn’t they just setup a positive buss-bar being feed by a single BIG wire in the cab and fuse each circuit off of there? Likewise with the grounds? I mean it seems a lot of extra works and materials to do it there way. It is not like there is only a few circuits. There are tons of them to all of the sending units, switches, sensors, etc.

I imagine that this is not the only JCB that had had it’s wiring pinched enough to cause this thermo-melt-down. Other than spend thousands on getting another harness; has anyone rewired their unit back together once this happened with any success?

It would also help to get info on what circuits are needed to run and operate. Accessories like lights, heater, etc can wait until time allows. Once it is running and working I hope that these accessories can be fixed on special wiring-hang-around-the-campfire-trips. Nice to have something to focus on,,,, and an excuse stored in the back pocket.

It is too bad it is so far away, and I’m only remembering stuff from August as I sit here, but come spring –when his tenant is out- I expect to go back up and try to get it to run and operate some for him. Would really love some war-stories about your endeavors and/or advice.

As ALWAYS; I appreciate any time you may expend on this for me. Your suggestions (not wise-cracks) are greatly appreciated in advance. ]]> Tractor/Loader/Backhoes dhunt http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15459 195 American Crane http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=15458&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:00:25 GMT 195 American crane , detroit engine , great undercarriage , 50 feet of boom . Good running crane ! $6,500.00 195 American crane , detroit engine , great undercarriage , 50 feet of boom . Good running crane ! $6,500.00
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