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milling_drum
08-26-2008, 02:07 PM
Please enjoy some of these. If anybody knows these machines, please feel free to post experiences.

Plenty more pictures to come as soon as I finish learning the uploads and how to post comments properly...hahahahaha

Dumb ass operator #1

Pic 1.Wirtgen W2000 is in Providence, RI. 2002.
Pic 2.W1200F washdown after milling Transfer Station floor, Orange County, FL. 2005.
Pic.3.Roadtec 60B, Long island, NY. 2007
Pic.4. Mid Atlantic Mills, Arcadia, FL. 2006

AtlasRob
08-26-2008, 02:16 PM
Never operated a mill but been near them quite alot, a very impressive piece of kit but they seem to need an operator on them, drivers dont seem to let them last very long :D

As for pics and blurb, go to the SUPPORT section and locate the first LOCKED thread, FORUM FUNCTIONS Countrboy spells it out perfectly. :thumbsup

milling_drum
08-27-2008, 02:59 PM
I much agree with the "drivers" assessment. hahahahaha

milling_drum
08-27-2008, 03:02 PM
If anybody wants, I'll give details. Not enuff angles on some of the pictures but they were fun times...

milling_drum
08-27-2008, 03:10 PM
This is from that Job in north of Orlando, FL.2005

We had no idea how deep the rebar was, I found it, the hard way.

Luckily, no damage, few broken teeth. Fnished the day's rental no problem.

In the last picture, I'm ****ing up. If you notice, the front of the machine is ALL the way up. That means the leg barrels have zero room to move for holding grade. I forgot to lower the front before cutting the autograde on.

Thankfully, Wirtgens are pretty easy to work with:)

d4c24a
08-27-2008, 04:00 PM
here are a few pictures of a planer working near my house earlier this year
these machines are widely used in the UK and there is a big demand for the planings
cheers graham

milling_drum
08-30-2008, 01:41 PM
Excellent Pictures. Thanks!!!

Looks like they were hauling ass too, I like the groundman knew enough to mark the CatchBasin/Culvert/Grate/Draincap off to the side because when the machine is over it, it cannot be seen properly. I've seen plenty of people over here that have NO idea why its a good idea to mark them like that.

Actually scratch that, More then half the time over here they run right over it.

hahahahaha

06bowtie_guy
08-31-2008, 01:29 PM
Nice shots, not too many of those machines locally. Pioneer has a few, bought a gigantic cat last year. Often we see a company call roto mill in town from down south as they do the train thing. Truck with a tanker pulls the grinding machine, put it into another machine which does it thing then dumps it back into a spreader. After that a finish coat of pave goes on and done. It's an interesting setup.

oakland
09-03-2008, 09:58 PM
we use planers here all the time never seen a wirtgen though:drinkup

oakland
09-03-2008, 10:01 PM
still more planers and a sweet stabilizer:drinkup

milling_drum
09-04-2008, 11:43 AM
Wow man, Them old machines are cool as hell to look at. That one Roadtec looks like it might belong to a company called Valentine.

That CATPR750 is single motor? V-12? I know the CAT PR1000's are a 8 cyl and a 12 cyl CAT engine(s).

CMI have always made the best and most powerful straight ahead cutting machine however, Wirtgens are the best for city/municipal.

Cool pics though, I've got some to come from a company called Dustrol. Old CAT's and those Modified, 30 year old, Ingersoll 14ft wide ****ers they run.

truck608
09-04-2008, 04:19 PM
Milling Drum,

Your 3rd picture caught my eye. Are you from Long Island? It also looks like Mohawks' tractor trailer there. I used to work for Seacrest. Might have worked with you on an Intercounty or Lizza job in the past.
Stay well,
John

milling_drum
09-04-2008, 07:02 PM
I was in the NYC area for 2 summers (2005-2006) That is Mohawks last remaining milling machine. That one picture is from a job in the Hewlett Harbor area of long island. As you can see by us being stopped, we were on their ass. Lucky for the tree:)

Thats Mohawks lowboy too with the machine on it in the other picture. Lizza and Intercounty I never worked for or with, some issues existed with that business that directly affected Mohawk, I'm not sure if you knew or know the details and surely I cannot mention some of it on here. I did run the Roadtec60B on a Seacrest Job that Mohawk was on rental for. Can't remember the location.

That mixer truck in your profile picture, I saw a few of those around the city. My father and brothers have a few dump trucks down there in the boroughs, They work for Deboe, HMM (better known these days as Maspeth Supply) and EIC.

This year I almost wound up with the paving company that got NYC DOT milling on Staten Island and Brooklyn, called Profetto Contracting but the union had to many guys sitting and wasn't about to let me in just for that.

Mohawk was great to work for, Charlie O really knows his stuff and is a professional about taking care of his stuff.

Know anybody that needs an operator or groundman? hahahahaha

oakland
09-04-2008, 07:11 PM
Wow man, Them old machines are cool as hell to look at. That one Roadtec looks like it might belong to a company called Valentine.

That CATPR750 is single motor? V-12? I know the CAT PR1000's are a 8 cyl and a 12 cyl CAT engine(s).

CMI have always made the best and most powerful straight ahead cutting machine however, Wirtgens are the best for city/municipal.

Cool pics though, I've got some to come from a company called Dustrol. Old CAT's and those Modified, 30 year old, Ingersoll 14ft wide ****ers they run.

yes that is one of valentines:D they do alot of work out here you are right about the cat pr750 and the cmis are really cool

milling_drum
09-04-2008, 07:15 PM
I was once told Valentine have over 80 milling machines...dayummmmmm

oakland
09-04-2008, 10:18 PM
I was once told Valentine have over 80 milling machines...dayummmmmm

i wouldnt doubt it. there was 4 on one job here and i looked them up on google earth and they have a pretty good sized yard with lots of mills. there is always atleast one of there mills around here:D.one of there planers is sitting in western constructions yard being taken apart dont know what happened to it but the whole drum assembly was gone.

milling_drum
09-05-2008, 01:01 PM
That one there in the Picture being a PR1200 looks to be a rear loading machine. I've never seen one of those at all. I have run the Front loading PR1050 models. Both those types of CMI have removable cutter assemblies and they can change out the drum sizes from 10 ft to 16 ft. Biggest I've ever run is the 12ft drum on a 1050, and that 30 year old Ingersoll in Nebraska.

I'm wondering how old this one is...

That one sitting is prolly having an entire housing with the drum brought up to it from the shop or something like that. I dunno those names you tossed around but if they let them leave it in the yard that means they have plenty of work still planned for it once they get the drum in place.

d4c24a
09-05-2008, 01:30 PM
here is a nice little machine we uk in the trenching game here in the uk
the one pictured has a 19 inch wide drum with a maximum depth of 18-20 inches it is cutting to its full depth through tarmac and concrete at the job i am on at the moment ,it leaves nice edges for reinstatement and the millings are used else where (my friends farm) :D
the base machine is a case 860 with a 200 hp cummins
cheers graham

milling_drum
09-06-2008, 03:58 PM
That looks like a cross between a mill and a rock saw....cutting deep into concrete and asphalt would require a nice, patient and unhungover operator hahahaha...

Powerful unit for sure.

Grader4me
09-09-2008, 03:00 PM
Here are a couple of pictures that I took today. They are milling 8 kms for us. Leveling/shaping with the grader.

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23751

23752

hvy 1ton
09-09-2008, 04:45 PM
Every year the township rents a reclaimer for a month or so to fix up the paved secondary roads around here. When they chew up the roads the add bitumen from a tanker.

milling_drum
09-10-2008, 02:50 PM
Thanks for the Pic's Graderman. I used to work for Miller back in the Mid 90's in Toronto. I also worked for them in Atlanta. They used to send machines to Atlanta from Canada all the the time and they all came from different divisions.

In New Brunswick they are called "New Brunswick Industrial Cold Planing" in Quebec its "Talon Seqbec" or something, I mighta spelled that wrong. Miller are the biggest Road construction outfit in Canada last I heard.

Grader4me
09-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Yes, they are a large company I believe. I know they go right out staight. They aren't afraid to work either, and they do a great job. I'm going back down there tomorrow to help the grader operator out so maybe I'll get a few more pictures.

oakland
09-14-2008, 01:26 PM
hey milling drum i got some pics for ya:D these are from a project here, they have 3 terex stabilizers. the contractor is porter yett from portland oregon. you can see more of the project in the showtime section under freeway widening:drinkup

milling_drum
09-23-2008, 08:02 PM
I gots some pictures of Dustrol's 30 year old 14ft machines that I was running briefly this year....

Unfortunately, I took a few risque pics of my G/F on that same roll of film and she dumped the CD with ALL pictures....need a digital for sure.

I'll get em scanned soon but they might be kinda icky cuz of the scan...

milling_drum
10-14-2008, 02:29 PM
Broken Manholes

telescooper
10-14-2008, 05:48 PM
The ground man must not have seen the manhole:mad:. dosen't look like they stopped to check things out either
Telescooper

Bellboy
10-15-2008, 09:21 AM
Now my youth and ignorance is really showing. What is it like to drive on a recycled/reclaimed/milled piece of road? I have seen a few of those big wirtgen reclaimers/recyclers here, and the idea seems good, but I can't be sure 'coz i've never seen the finished version of a remilled road(recycled material mixed with asphalt) I would probably try that, but i have no idea how nicely it finishes. I saw a segment about a wirtgen recycler once on TV, and they were finishing with single drum soil compactors, (smooth drums), tandems and then peumatic rollers.

I also saw an article about green road building compared to the traditional methods, and somewhere they said that the recycling method saves around R9.69 per ton on a recycled road base. The numbers get bigger the more you recycle the road.

Steve Frazier
10-15-2008, 01:33 PM
One of the roads near me was recycled a few years ago. They ground up all the asphalt to a base like material and compacted it. It was left for about 2 weeks, at that stage it was like driving on a gravel road. After the 2 weeks, they came through and put down binder followed by oil and stone top. Today it's like driving on any other paved road. I'm in a rural area where we have no manholes nor curbs, just the occasional culvert crossing under the pavement.

Grader4me
10-16-2008, 05:26 AM
As Steve said, after it's leveled out, shaped and compacted it's the same as driving on a gravel road. It makes a good road after it's been chipsealed. If left to long before sealing it bonds together and becomes like pavement again. Then it becomes hard to grade.
We have hauled this reclaim to gravel roads to see how it would work. Once leveled it made a beautiful road but after a few weeks it turned back to pavement again. Places in the road that didn't bond, separated and became potholes, so we ended up with a not so perfect road.
We have hauled crushed rock over top of this and Chipsealed. We have also just Chipsealed over the reclaim and that has worked good to.

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10-16-2008, 11:24 PM
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milling_drum
11-05-2008, 02:52 PM
Now my youth and ignorance is really showing. What is it like to drive on a recycled/reclaimed/milled piece of road? I have seen a few of those big wirtgen reclaimers/recyclers here, and the idea seems good, but I can't be sure 'coz i've never seen the finished version of a remilled road(recycled material mixed with asphalt) I would probably try that, but i have no idea how nicely it finishes. I saw a segment about a wirtgen recycler once on TV, and they were finishing with single drum soil compactors, (smooth drums), tandems and then peumatic rollers.

I also saw an article about green road building compared to the traditional methods, and somewhere they said that the recycling method saves around R9.69 per ton on a recycled road base. The numbers get bigger the more you recycle the road.

Your tires make a humming sound while riding the grooved pavement...

badger02
11-07-2008, 01:21 PM
nice

Bossearth
11-08-2008, 01:10 AM
We don't see any of these in south africa!

Bellboy
11-08-2008, 03:03 AM
We don't see any of these in south africa!

What do you mean? The Roads Agency has dozens of 'em!

AtlasRob
11-22-2008, 03:46 PM
For your enjoyment milling drum.
This Wirgen came right on through my work area ( or was it his area I was in ;) ) so I did the honourable thing........... took some pictures :D

27333

Only taking enough off for the new wearing course

27335

27337
travel speed at this depth is a fast walk :eek:
27339

Never ceases to amaze me :notworthy
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AtlasRob
11-22-2008, 03:51 PM
Heres a couple of the technical bit :D

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This touch pad seems to give the mm alterations to the cutting drum and is controlled by the groundman
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d4c24a
11-22-2008, 04:03 PM
i spent a week or so behind a planner with a sweeper on the M3 years ago
for gale plant ,who did alot of work for associated ashphalt
it got a bit boring after a while :Banghead
i was glad to get back to my normal job :D
great pictures rob :drinkup
graham

Dwan Hall
11-23-2008, 12:14 AM
I also was a sweeping contractor behind a grinding crew last year. I got to keep the millings. I now use them to fill potholes then use a infrared heater to reheat the patch, then roll it. no seam to fail and a patch that is part of the original material.

Just finished a patch in the middle of our airport runway.
The state here also uses the grindings as a sub base (6" thick) then chip seals. This seems to hold well. Only thing is if it does pothole the edges are sharper and the hole is deeper.

123
11-26-2008, 05:45 AM
Picture #1 is in Providence, RI. The machine is actually a Wirtgen 1900DC. Performing the work is Cavaliere Industries Inc. in Stamford, CT

milling_drum
12-15-2008, 03:03 PM
Picture #1 is in Providence, RI. The machine is actually a Wirtgen 1900DC. Performing the work is Cavaliere Industries Inc. in Stamford, CT

Picture #1 is Calaviere Industries W2000. The operator was from FL. on short notice hire as was the groundman who wasn't worth a hell to work with. The work was for Lynch contracting in Providence Rhode Island.

The DC1900 was changed out for the W2000 due to a blown track motor about a week before that picture was taken.

I'll bet Cavaliere Industries have an entire CD of pictures from that particular day that became availible to them thanks to that operator who insured the photographer saved the pictures to disc and sent them out to him. I'll even further bet that a few pictures from that day are in use on Cavaliere industries website, and if the commentor went back and had a look at the disc they would see the side of the machine reads "W2000".

Ta Ta:drinkup

milling_drum
12-15-2008, 03:05 PM
Excellent pictures!

Looks like an older DC2100. Those are Tough as nails milling machines. The pattern the drum leaves is mighty pretty as well.

Thanks Rob.

123
12-15-2008, 03:40 PM
You are excatly right! good looking out.

123
12-15-2008, 03:50 PM
FYI, I was a laborer for Lynch

Bellboy
12-16-2008, 12:45 AM
Is that a blue 2CX to the left in the 3rd and 5th pics?

I have to say, I have never seen such a tight working environment before. It looks soo cool!!

milling_drum
12-16-2008, 07:56 AM
FYI, I was a laborer for Lynch

Aw, I was hoping you were DJ from Cavaliere.

Makes me wrong twice now. That Blue machine in pictures is a W2200.

Good to see you again. I've got more pictures at myspace if you are interested.

http://myspace.com/internazi

d4c24a
12-16-2008, 01:09 PM
Is that a blue 2CX to the left in the 3rd and 5th pics?

I have to say, I have never seen such a tight working environment before. It looks soo cool!!

yes bellboy thats a 2cx airmaster ,compressor on the rear and a 4-1 or chippings bucket up front .as for tight thats a job with room in the uk :D
cheers graham

changexlt
12-17-2008, 11:06 PM
Here's some with more to follow

#1 Getting kinda close
#2 Custom Company made Wind deflector for keeping it cooler with tail wind.
#3 I really dislike dirt.
#4 Fast moving JD 750
#5 Builtin cap holder for really windy days.

changexlt
12-17-2008, 11:09 PM
More same site.

#1 I do not like clay.
#4 Full Depth asphalt edge
#5 Too much dirt.

changexlt
12-17-2008, 11:18 PM
Here's some from Roder's Pass Montana.

changexlt
12-17-2008, 11:20 PM
A few more.

milling_drum
12-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Cool Pictures!

That old CAT looks like its been down the road a few times.

That shouldering Job looks like it was the type of Job where everybody is sucking dust...I feel for you and the groundman.

Thanks for keeping the thread going.

I noticed the drum was a Kenametal. What brand of teeth were you using?

changexlt
12-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Well, that machine has a history. It came from New Orleans, and was never under water.:rolleyes: When it was brought to our shop, sea shells were found in the engine compartment.

That shouldering job was just me Operator/Water Truck Driver/ Groundman and my Forman/ Water Truck driver/ Groundman. I got the brunt of the dust, while he strolled along in the water truck.

I believe there we were using Kennametal RP-19's. Also use RP20's, Rz-19. Sandvic Blues and Red boxes (trispec?) don't recall the type.

I'm sure you also noticed the toolbox on the back, the improved air intake on the hood, and the trucker lights (aka stupid lights).

My company has a decent number of mills. 4 565B's 2 or 3 450's 1 1000 (susposed to be retired this year) 1 W2200 8ft cut and rumor was a new w2200 with 12.6 ft cutter and a 7 ft cutter.

Industrial builders is the company name. I'm actually pictured on the website as a groundman 1st year.

milling_drum
12-18-2008, 07:55 PM
That clay business probably won't come off with the drum spinning at full RPM with the water shooting down.....

The one picture with the dust covered console brings on a few memories too.

Good to have ya around, there isn't anyone that does tech talk about milling here yet though.

AtlasRob
12-20-2008, 04:32 PM
Here's some from Roder's Pass Montana.

Some beautiful scenery you get to operate in. It amazes me how you work on roads with no obvious safety barriers or cones, although I am aware pictures do not always show a full and true account of working practices and the comment is an observation not a critisim.
Thanks for sharing :drinkup

And, Milling Drum you are welcome :drinkup

bean
12-20-2008, 07:22 PM
Some pictures of my baby
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8982/pr1000cjx1.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pr1000cjx1.jpg)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4228/train1jd8.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=train1jd8.jpg)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5303/train3ks6.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=train3ks6.jpg)

I'm the Ground man for that Recycling Train. Ive also worked with the Roadtec RX110 and RX120 Single unit recylcers.

bean
12-20-2008, 07:24 PM
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8982/pr1000cjx1.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4228/train1jd8.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5303/train3ks6.jpg

milling_drum
12-20-2008, 10:03 PM
Nice pictures Bean, Thanks for adding them.

Rob makes a good point about the lack of safety on jobs over here. Usually on the mountain areas in the east when I have been, they use a system where a flagman exists at both ends of the closed road area and a pilot car brings the minions through. Seems to work ok until the end of the day and everybody gets drunk together and the flaggers realize why they will in most cases stay flaggers....

bean
12-21-2008, 01:19 AM
Our job sites consist of 2 flaggers and a convoy truck leading the traffic. We rarely have cones or closed roads up here in Canada. I had my foot ran over twice 2 years ago and hit by 1 car. This year i guess i got lucky and nuthing cool like that happened

brian
12-21-2008, 11:43 AM
we have 4 mills were i work. a wirtgen 1900dc, roadtec rx60b, and 2 wirtgen w2000's

AtlasRob
12-21-2008, 02:16 PM
Usually on the mountain areas in the east when I have been, they use a system where a flagman exists at both ends of the closed road area and a pilot car brings the minions through. ....

That is exactly what I mean by the comment that pictures do not tell the whole story.

I have never come across the use of flagmen and pilot cars in UK but now you explain it, it makes perfect sense for those situations. :thumbsup

Bean, thanks for the pics. Can you elaborate more on what they show. I assume it is a planer feeding straight into some form of recycler.
Not trying to be a smart *ss, we dont do that here and I am intrested in what the proccess is.

Great pics Brian thanks for sharing

bean
12-21-2008, 05:40 PM
My company specializes in Cold in place and foamed asphalt recycling. The PR1000 pushes a 40 tonne tanker of 300+ degree asphalt cement or emulsion and pulls the recycling train and water tank which screens and crushes the milling to size in a closed loop. After they are sized (usually to 1 inch) the material is weighed on a scale conveyor and dropped into a pugmill where it is mixed with the AC or emulsion. With that particular machine the Rap is left in a windrow and the paver which is not shown pics it up shortly after and lays it to grade. To give you an idea we usually produce about 2-4 lane kilometers a day between 3 and 6 inches deep adding anywhere from 1%-4% AC or emulsion. Last season that particular train did about 650 000 square meters.

Any other information you would like?
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9338/fullviewsm5.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/568/pulveran1.jpg

oakland
12-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Nice pictures Bean, Thanks for adding them.

Rob makes a good point about the lack of safety on jobs over here. Usually on the mountain areas in the east when I have been, they use a system where a flagman exists at both ends of the closed road area and a pilot car brings the minions through. Seems to work ok until the end of the day and everybody gets drunk together and the flaggers realize why they will in most cases stay flaggers....

they did that here twice on the 13 miles of the warm lake road, they had flaggers at every entrance along the 13 miles that was about 40 flaggers they had 2 pilot cars and it was about 15-30 minute delays. valentine surfacing was there right after i left to tear up the old asphalt:Banghead

milling_drum
12-22-2008, 09:51 AM
I think the term Rob is looking for is....

Cold-in-place-recycling-train.

Mainly those trains are found out in the middle of nowhere to either stabilizer base or because the cost of trucking asphalt is out of hand. I've seen some that produce a great finish product of which lasts a good little while too.

They also run Hot-in-place-recycling-trains here and in a few other areas of the world.

Martec.com

milling_drum
12-22-2008, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the pictures from Ohio and thanks to Bean for adding more.

oakland
12-22-2008, 10:36 AM
Valentine Surfacing has completed more than 6,000 lane-miles of cold-in-place recycling. CIR is a proven process and is your best roadway rehabilitation alternative

oakland
12-22-2008, 10:49 AM
Here's some from Roder's Pass Montana.

do you know what company those trucks were from? they look like some of debco constructions', just wondering they do alot of work up there:drinkup

AtlasRob
12-22-2008, 03:40 PM
Bean, Oakland and Milling Drum :thumbsup thank you very much for the lesson.
It makes perfect sense to recycle and relay especially when its a very long way to haul new material in.

milling_drum
12-22-2008, 05:11 PM
I'm surprized they haven't got any of those running in the UK really. From the looks of the paving operations in the pictures I've seen on here, They seem to have pretty good operations over there where you are Rob. Trust me, you would laff your ass off over here at some of what goes on.

I might just have to see about a visa over there and come visit for a season or two.

changexlt
12-22-2008, 05:26 PM
do you know what company those trucks were from? they look like some of debco constructions', just wondering they do alot of work up there:drinkup

They were a part of Riverside Contracting or was is Riverside Sand and Gravel? I can't remember for sure.

brian
12-22-2008, 09:23 PM
the company i work for used to do cold in place recycling. they used to use an old barco mill 800 that pulled an blaw-knox pf120 paver and pushed two tankers . i never got to see it in action they quit running it when i started there. my boss's brothers company took over the cold in place stuff they use an wirtgen w2500

bean
12-22-2008, 09:57 PM
I think the term Rob is looking for is....

Cold-in-place-recycling-train.

Mainly those trains are found out in the middle of nowhere to either stabilizer base or because the cost of trucking asphalt is out of hand. I've seen some that produce a great finish product of which lasts a good little while too.

They also run Hot-in-place-recycling-trains here and in a few other areas of the world.

Martec.com

I don't know about down south but up here we do ALLOT of city work aswell as county roads about half of our work last year was in the city. My company has even done a few cul-de-sacs over the years.

If you want to see how the single unit recyclers work there is a flash video at http://www.seeleyandarnill.com/rx120_rx110.swf which may be a bit dated but you get the idea.

both the rx120 and rx110 are one of a kind machines

milling_drum
12-23-2008, 12:54 AM
Sorry Bean, I had no idea they would run them in cities. I can imagine that would be a tight time frame on the road/off the road.

bean
12-23-2008, 09:50 AM
Was just letting you know is all.

Usually cops flag the traffic lights and there is a 1 or 2 traffic light limit for your jobsite. Depending on the city and what kind of area you are in you are allowd to work anywhere from 7am-9pm. For very busy roads you get the odd night job. I just wish those city workers would lower the manholes properly 1/2 the time they lower the manhole then put the concrete spacers or bricks on top :Banghead. Hitting the big brass traffic light magnetic detectors is always good for the drum to.

AtlasRob
12-23-2008, 03:22 PM
I'm surprized they haven't got any of those running in the UK really.

Wrote you a wonderful essay TWICE and got logged out TWICE it took so long :beatsme, so this is to see if it happens again

AtlasRob
12-23-2008, 03:30 PM
That worked so it must be me typing slow ***

I think the rig is too big for most of the places we could use it.
I can see it doing full recon/ recyling of the top 6" on our country roads a lot of which are in desperate need of some TLC.
The major road network is also in need of TLC but as that is happening bridge supports are getting beefed up due to the danger of impact from 44ton artics.
When most were built we ran at a max of 32t, shoulders are getting widened new comms and street lighting ducts and drainage upgrades also happen so it is major const rather than quick relay.

milling_drum
12-23-2008, 04:18 PM
Rob,

These recycling trains need parking at the end of the day which is another reason why they are difficult in heavy urban areas. Like Bean pointed when the cutting operation is interrupted, its moreless a problem for the whole train.

In the UK I'm sure they have demo'ed a train or two. I've spent plenty of time with Hot-in-place trains.

Funny story. Transport Canada (DOT in Canada) in the summer of 1993 decided to try out a company called HIP. (hot-in-place) They had them running a course of the airport runways in Ottawa. The HIP fellas were in their glory to be finally given a shot at credibilty nationally. Cameras were there, all the big wigs including the transportation minister at the time. They were running an elaborate setup with multiple preheaters,(they are huge furnace blasting heat into the ground dinosaur looking things) the rest of the train is simular to the pictured trains here.

All the machines were rigged with portable generators for additional lighting. Some poor soul rigged up the generator on the preheater/grinder/pugmill on the front of it because there wasn't room anywhere else. Low and behold a propane line (source of heat) gets tangled in the exhaust of that portable generator and melts, catches fire and they can't put it out in time before the engine is completely on fire....

They are dead right where they sat. Up to that point things had been going pretty well, they were nearly 6 inches deep, and the paved mat was comming up smooth and meeting compaction test requirements.

Took years after that before the Fed's gave in to it. Counties used them without federal approval plenty though and they did plenty of work. They are still around from what I understand.

twas hilarious:)

AtlasRob
12-23-2008, 04:48 PM
Rob,

twas hilarious:)

:D you have a very malicious streak :drinkup

milling_drum
12-23-2008, 06:38 PM
Hey Bean, I saw your looking for a Full Lane machine. (used)

I know of a PR1000 in great shape being retired. Its located in Nebraska. I'll be happy to make a few calls and find out what the specs are. I do know both motors do run, I'm not sure of hours and drum width, they run a few at 14ft and a few at 12ft.

woodee955
12-23-2008, 10:23 PM
Milling, I figured I would get out of the union thread and found you on this one. Turtle only does work on the air force base I work on. They sub for the paving company that gets all the work on base. I've never seen them do any commercial work around here. CW matthews bought out the local APAC division a couple of years ago. They are getting huge around Atl.

milling_drum
12-26-2008, 08:28 AM
Heres a few more...

milling_drum
12-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Various pictures...

milling_drum
12-26-2008, 08:54 AM
Always the fun....

milling_drum
12-26-2008, 09:34 AM
seem to figure my own junk out:beatsme

milling_drum
03-29-2009, 07:52 PM
Its all good down here in Texas:)

milling_drum
04-04-2009, 09:40 PM
Some more eye candy...

milling_drum
04-17-2009, 08:32 PM
Always something going on:)

changexlt
05-04-2009, 10:58 PM
Couple from today. Loaded, waiting for trucks, and the cut.

milling_drum
05-05-2009, 08:03 PM
Shouldering....

Great pattern on that 450!

changexlt
05-07-2009, 07:35 PM
Captured a few more pics.

griz
05-14-2009, 02:00 PM
new here,frist post.
worked on that 60B before & profettos,intercountys,lizza and mohawk

MILL IT UP...GRIZ.

milling_drum
05-14-2009, 04:32 PM
Welcome Griz, always nice to see some folks who know the equipment. I still keep in Touch with Charlie from Mohawk. They are good people.

griz
05-14-2009, 05:42 PM
milling drum,last time i was at charlies i put a fan motor on his 700.then stoped by joes yard in hicksville to look at one of his 900s.havn't seen charlie in two years or so.
this looks like a great forum.
GRIZ.

milling_drum
05-16-2009, 07:08 AM
Yes, this is a great site.

I miss Long Island and NYC. I'm sure you know all about what happened with Charlie because of Chippie, now he only mills on rentals and is hardly ever on a job more than a day or two. I wish I still worked out there but Local 14 and 138 had issues with me being from Fl.

Please get us some pictures of the some of Lizza's machines, there are hardly any newer Roadtec pictures here.

Always Cuttin':D

griz
05-16-2009, 05:10 PM
I have lots of pictures, just have to figure out how to post them. If you would like to see some picture of the new RT500, I was out doing some work on it in Carson City, Nevada in the summer. Go to www.roadtec.com it's a new pullable cold inplace machine, it's impressive, and RX900 has 2 tankers in front of it and it mills the lane backwards, feeds the material into the RT500, the RT500 sizes it, runs it through a plug mill, oil is injected, it's mixed and it comes out in a winrow between the tandems and 2 other tankers it is pullin straddle the winrow, then the pick up machine, picks it up and puts it in the paver. I'll try to post some pictures of machines that people have destroyed, you will not believe. I can download new software in your machine, but I have a heck of a time putting a picture on the internet.
MILL IT UP ...GRIZ.

milling_drum
05-16-2009, 05:23 PM
Its all good. Thats a cold-in-place paving train your describing, they have been around for a very long time actually. Roadtec's version which seems to run pretty good from what I've heard.

Check this out (just click the link or copy and paste it) its Charlie running one of those 60C's he bought from when they auctioned off Co-Fires mills....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aJ6VV-JFVc

changexlt
05-16-2009, 05:46 PM
Next Job in MN.

Cat 1000 and Cat 450 being chased.

changexlt
05-16-2009, 05:50 PM
The cut size, and pic of how close we were getting to being chased.

milling_drum
05-16-2009, 05:53 PM
Holy Mackeral, that PR1000 has a pattern and a half...wow!

LMFAO@ PR450 being chased!

AtlasRob
05-18-2009, 03:52 PM
I can download new software in your machine, but I have a heck of a time putting a picture on the internet.


:lmao Welcome to hyperspace Griz,....... we'll engage crawler for a while till you get the posting sussed out, we got plenty of time :D hit us when your ready.

Have a look at this.

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2284


changexlt, great pics thanks for sharing.

changexlt
05-19-2009, 10:23 PM
Last four of that job. Sitting waiting for traffic control long line of trucks. Starting the cut. Two closer pics of the 1000's pattern.

changexlt
05-23-2009, 05:25 PM
:update
Next, load out truck with reclaimed asphalt. No water. asphalt before grinding is 10-13 inches deep, and deeper after grinding. Ol 350 can't go that deep.
Pic 1 10 or so degress

pic 2 just too deep. :Banghead

pic 3 There is trucks back there!

Pic 4 Hope the wind don't switch.:thumbdown

griz
05-24-2009, 07:36 AM
Here's some pictures of cold inplace paving in Niagra Falls on Tuesday.

milling_drum
05-24-2009, 02:10 PM
Nice Pictures Griz!

Those dudes go alot deeper than the Gorman Bros Cold-In-Place train I saw in the Adrondacks in 2007. On that Job I was with a Villager W1200F trimming the shoulder off cuz the PR1050 wasn't getting down into it enough without slowing it down to where they couldn't maintain a decent speed. That RX900 obviously has NO problems with power. Dayum, that sucker is cutting deep.

My Friend above Changexlt, dude, that thing is on such a sharp slope angle it looks like you might fall off it. Is it hard to hold straight in that cut material? I'm surprized that old thing has enough in the gear drive system to pull a heavy load like that off the ground. BTW, last friday I saw they put the 4ft drum back in that other 450. (or was it the same one?)

changexlt
05-24-2009, 03:15 PM
MD, (bet that sounds good don't it)
It holds where ever I point it. Not real worried about depth or straight, just loading trucks. I actually have too much power for loading this loose material no bogging down here. I'd assume they put it in the old 450. Still have the same one I started with now with that 6ft micro cutter. Hope to get through this job w/o changing teeth. Would make for 3 jobs w/o changing a single tooth.

AtlasRob
05-24-2009, 04:30 PM
Here's some pictures of cold inplace paving in Niagra Falls on Tuesday.

Wow, neat pictures griz thats the first pictures of that sort of operation I have seen. Its been described but never shown :notworthy. ( sorry MD ;) )

milling_drum
05-24-2009, 08:54 PM
Its all good Rob!

I'm of the opinion however that a Cold-in-Place thread would be in order.

griz
05-24-2009, 09:10 PM
Hey fellas, I'll try to get some more pictures of cold inplace, but it's going to take a little while, I have to leave in the morning for a job on the Canadian border till Friday, then I have to go to Bangor Maine and I'll be back late next week.

Toegrinder
11-22-2009, 12:03 PM
i wouldnt doubt it. there was 4 on one job here and i looked them up on google earth and they have a pretty good sized yard with lots of mills. there is always atleast one of there mills around here:D.one of there planers is sitting in western constructions yard being taken apart dont know what happened to it but the whole drum assembly was gone.

They have to pull the cutter out for transport due to weight restrictions as well as the drum being to wide to be on the transport. We always did the same with our 1200's and 1000's as we would run a 16 foot cutter on certain jobs.

Toegrinder
11-22-2009, 12:06 PM
Nice shots, not too many of those machines locally. Pioneer has a few, bought a gigantic cat last year. Often we see a company call roto mill in town from down south as they do the train thing. Truck with a tanker pulls the grinding machine, put it into another machine which does it thing then dumps it back into a spreader. After that a finish coat of pave goes on and done. It's an interesting setup.


Actually the mill does all of the pushing/pulling of the trucks, tankers, and crushers it is hooked to. :D:thumbsup