transfer tank pumps

[PSDF350]

any suggestions. need to get a transfer tank and pump and dont know much about them so any help greatly appreciated.

[Nac]

I have a 20GPM fillrite pump and an aluimnium tank seem to work for me. But what I have noticed since I installed a fuel filter on the pump I is no way near 20 GPM.

[PSDF350]

thanks Nac
I was looking on northern tools site and prices seem good. quick ? these electric pumps are they supposed to be hooked up to battery? (dumb ? I know). becuase I saw a couple that are 115v AC others are 12v.

[CT18fireman]

The 12 volt ones are for vehicle setup. Mine is wired through a safety switch in the cab then directly to the battery. Keeps people from trying to steal my fuel or have accidents.

The 120 volt models are for permanent tanks, at a home, shop or farm.

The filter will cause less flow but still good to have.

I have a Diamondplate 75 gallon (I think) from Weatherguard. I have never put more then around 50 gallons in it though. Mine is L shaped and fit in front of and under my toolbox.

[PSDF350]

thanks Jesse do you have a link to the weatherguard ones?

[digger242j]

I've seen 12 volt installations that were hard wired to the battery, and I've seen a couple of guys who simply had a long enough cord to reach forward to the battery and clip on temporarily, with clips like you'd find on a battery charger.

The 115 volt pumps are for tanks that stay in one place long enough to make an electrical connection worthwhile.

(While I was trying to resize the pic, Jesse beat me to the part about 12 volt vs. 115 volt.)

We have a 50 gallon tank I salvaged from a junk dumptruck. I took the access cover off the top, and cut a hole in it just big enough to fit a pipe through. (Welding to it in place would have been a bad idea.) I got the plumbers to thread the pipe to fit into the pump. I welded the pipe into the hole, reattached the plate to the tank, and screwed the pump onto it.

On the site we're on, streets and alleys are already paved. Rather than crossing pavement to get the excavators to the big tank, we use this small tank and carry fuel to the machine. It's easy enough when you have a skidsteer with forks to carry it around. On occasion, it's also been put in back of a truck and used on other sites, although I don't like to do that. I'm not sure it would meet DOT regs. The pump that's on there is a hand cranked model.

[DKinWA]

I've also got a Weatherguard (http://www.knaacksecure.com/content.cfm?page_id=16&subcategory_id=20) and no complaints after 3 years. I bought the 70 gallon L-shaped one and put a fillrite pump on it along with a filter and it pumps plenty fast for me. The only thing I'd like to do is put a longer hose on it. There I times it's difficult to get my truck up next to the machine and still have enough hose to reach where I need to. I think it came with a 12' hose, but 20' would be a lot better.

[PSDF350]

thanks for the link. I noticed that those are steel. the ones at northern tool are aluminum. which is better?

[DKinWA]

I don't know if one's really better than the other, but they each have their strong and weak points. When I was looking, I choose the steel weatherguard because they're so common around here. Another option is to have one built to your spec's. I'm going to have a tank built similar to the one digger uses around the job site so I can carry it on my equipment trailer. On a lot of jobs, I won't have my pickup on site, but I do need the fuel.

I went outside and snapped a picture of mine so you can see how mine sits in the truck. It has a fillrite pump, filter and electronic meter. I use the meter to keep track of how much I use and when I need to fill the transfer tank.

[PSDF350]

Thanks for the pic it looks good. I was also thinking of getting a meter for same reasons.

[CT18fireman]

Mine is the same setup except aluminum. I like it because it matches the toolbox. I have an 18ft hose that reaches back to the trailer or easily to a machine. The bad part is keeping it neat.

Definately get the meter, helps keep track of fuel, especially if you fill other people, which I do occassionally on jobs.

I am looking at an International now and if I get it, I will probably plumb a pump right into the trucks tank, so that is another option.

The transfer is nice for those long road trips though. Went all the way to Chicago with a trailer and never bought fuel, just stopped at a rest area and pumped into the tank. Just remember to use regular diesel, to be honest inspectors around here don't like seeing offroad fuel in a transfer tank permanently in a truck. Gets them suspicious.

[CascadeScaper]

If I wasn't going off to college I'd get a tank for my truck. Right now we have to take 5 gallon cans out to the site and fuel up as needed. This gets old in a hurry, a real PITA, not to mention those dumb plastic nozzles leak all over the machine. We need a solution, we don't consume alot of fuel but when we do need to refuel it tends to be messy and time consuming. I'm thinking maybe a 20-30 gallon tank with a hand rotary style pump. We'd never need to pump more than about 12 gallons at a time, the skid steer tank is 14 and the 303 is less than that I assume, so it's not like we need an electric pump. I'm going to go look for some ideas on the net, see what I come up with.

[PSDF350]

cascade that is excactly what I dont want to do. becuase like you said messy and just plain a PITA.

[xkvator]

the best deal i found on fill rite pumps are on EBAY from JMESALES. they sell all types of pumps/filters and have factory reconditioned also. they can answer any questions you have. they also have GASBOY & other brands - will send you a catalog.
i ordered a 115v fill rite fr700 - 20 gpm. $335+24 shipping
:usa

[xkvator]

the 12v 15 gpm fill rite pump is $199 + 19 shipping

[PSDF350]

I orderd a 100 gallon aluminum L shaped tank today up the road. I will be getting it tommoro. but I am going to be ordering the pump from northern and was thinking of getting a fuel meter any suggestions.

[xkvator]

the FR1210 fill rite pump - 15 gpm 12v is $100 more at NORTHERN TOOL. you can get the pump AND meter at JMESALES on EBAY for the same price. :usa

[PSDF350]

thanks xvator

[PSDF350]

I cant seem to find him on ebay. but then I dont spend much time there so dont know all the in's and out's.

[xkvator]

me neither, but i found EBAY is worth looking at - i've found a lot of tools, etc. a lot cheaper.
Just type in "fill rite" (2 words) in the search box...they have a couple 115v pumps listed...click on one of those, then over in the right side click on either...my other items for sale OR my ebay store and it'll bring all there other stuff up.

[CT18fireman]

yahoo search for JME, he sells them for the same price on his site, just uses ebay for the advertising.

I can get the pump setup for $10 cheaper with no sipping locally, so I don't know how good a deal it really is, look around a bit.

[PSDF350]

Thanks guys!

[kamerad47]

Has anyone had any experience wth the 90 gal tank & toolbx combo?

[DR RPM]

Up here in the great white north we prefer the Great Plains Industries (GPI) pumps ( made right in Kansas ) over the don't Filrite (much better pump) and a tank from Westeel (L-shaped) :bash

[Kingston]

GPI Contractor special mounted to my Delta made (tractor supply branded Aluminum 74 gal 'L' with integrated tool box) I wound up using a GPI M-3025-CS w/ the offset inlet elbow. The M-3025-AL that I picked up on clearance would not fit my particular application (I've got topside boxes mounted to a full ladder rack. Now I've got to find a home for the extra M-3025-AL. These 25 gpm pumps crank. Mine is wired directly for now. I installed two swivel elbows and a 3/4" hose. The 1' hose and nozzle was too much to wrestle for the volume that I pump. GPI is MADE in USA!

To add a switch on the dash does one need to use a huge switch? These are fused for 50 amps or so if I recall.

[gmads01]

I third the GPI pumps. They have been extremely reliable. What we do is wire the pump to a three way switch in the cab so the pump can pump or siphon, or be turned off from in the cab. We also use crowsfeet to attach the pump nozzle to the hose. That way we can keep 500 or 1000 gallon tanks at the jobsite without pumps on them. They also have a crowsfoot on the tank so you can pull up in your truck to siphon fuel into your transfer tank.

[nedly05]

GPI Contractor special mounted to my Delta made (tractor supply branded Aluminum 74 gal 'L' with integrated tool box) I wound up using a GPI M-3025-CS w/ the offset inlet elbow. The M-3025-AL that I picked up on clearance would not fit my particular application (I've got topside boxes mounted to a full ladder rack. Now I've got to find a home for the extra M-3025-AL. These 25 gpm pumps crank. Mine is wired directly for now. I installed two swivel elbows and a 3/4" hose. The 1' hose and nozzle was too much to wrestle for the volume that I pump. GPI is MADE in USA!

To add a switch on the dash does one need to use a huge switch? These are fused for 50 amps or so if I recall.

I have that exact same set up, I just had to spend $200 having a bunch of spots welded up because the delta welds cracked and fuel was seeping out above a certain level. The tool box is an odd shape too, not much fits in it, and mine leaked, needs more weatherstripping. On the pump, the 15GPM fill rite has been a good pump for us.

[guest]

My first filrite lasted 12 years had to get new one in Oct. JMEsales was about $90 cheaper than local coop with shipping.

[RailKing]

I had a 15gpm fillrite for a few years and never had any problems. I also bought a toolbox/fuel tank combo from Northern tool and had nothing but problems with it. The tank leaked a little around some of the welds and the latches on the box lasted about a week.

[Dualie]

I recently just crushed my last existing steel transfer tank. NEVER going steel tanks again. I'm in California (read Dry and no salt) buy good treated fuel from bulk plants and the tanks would still rust to shat. Aluminum or die.

I'm not a huge fan of diamond plate tanks but their was a guy around here that would make UL listed Dot approved smooth aluminum tanks CHEEP. he since retired unfortunately so I think I will give areo tanks in corona a chance making my next smooth aluminum transfer tank.

To those of you that are using them pump or suck from the nozzle end how are you keeping the impellers and seals in the pump working? ever single time I tried this with a Fill rite or a GPI pump I ended up having to rebuild it in a couple of weeks.

[gmads01]

I recently just crushed my last existing steel transfer tank. NEVER going steel tanks again. I'm in California (read Dry and no salt) buy good treated fuel from bulk plants and the tanks would still rust to shat. Aluminum or die.

I'm not a huge fan of diamond plate tanks but their was a guy around here that would make UL listed Dot approved smooth aluminum tanks CHEEP. he since retired unfortunately so I think I will give areo tanks in corona a chance making my next smooth aluminum transfer tank.

To those of you that are using them pump or suck from the nozzle end how are you keeping the impellers and seals in the pump working? ever single time I tried this with a Fill rite or a GPI pump I ended up having to rebuild it in a couple of weeks.


I didn't know anything had to happen. Maybe I'm lucky, but my first set-up lasted 4 years (and then I traded the truck in complete) and my second lasted 3 years before I gave that tank to one of my guys. These were GPI pumps.

I'd always had problems with the steel tank seeping at seams after a couple few years. The last tank I had made and then Line-X'd thinking it might make it last longer. It's going on 4 years now. I'll try to get a pic posted of it tomorrow.

[RocksnRoses]

We have a Fillrite 12 volt pump on our trailer tank, that we have had for over 15 years and it has given us no trouble at all. Steel tanks don't seem to cause any problems, but then we are also in a much drier climate. Poly tanks are becoming quite popular, but there was an issue with the agents filling them direct from the tanker. I think it was because they couldn't ground the tank for static electricity. We fill ours from our main storage tank, to take out on site. Both Fillrite and Great Plains are marketed here.

Rn'R.

[dist3]

AW Direct , you can order online , direct from a branch.

[eRay]

eBay is definately the place to buy fill rite pumps. I bought a new 15 gpm with automatic nozzle on eBay for $159.00.

[gmads01]

This is the tank I made. I hope the Line-X makes it last longer. You can also see the quick connect at the nozzle I was talking about.

[Partsdude]

Remember to add in a filter assembly as well. 10 dollars for a fuel filter is much better than 1000(or more) dollars for clogged injectors or borked up injection pumps.

[Randy88]

Doesn't sound like you guys need to haul a lot of fuel but we do and found the DOT was putting the clamps down on tanks bigger than 119 gallons and requiring hasmat endorsement for the driver even in pickups, so we went to 115gallon tanks and plumbing them together into one pump and getting around the hasmat problem. We have had tanks made for us and used steel heavy guage material with a raised bottom so its off the bed floor and that seems to help, the pump we use is a fleet store special and its junk, we just haven't got around to getting a fillrite pump yet but we do have a hose reel and love it, the best thing we ever did, keeps the hoses from kinking and breaking over time, made the hoses last 5 times longer and don't get accidentally smashed in the back of the truck anymore. Does anyone have trouble with the check valves leaking and getting air locks in the pumps? Thats caused nothing but problems for us and have installed valves on the top of the pumps to bleed air off so they pump fuel again and was wondering if adding a second checkvalve would help to keep fuel in the pump all the time.