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Grader4me
04-22-2008, 02:24 PM
This is what a Vee plow and hard snow banks will give you. Takes the shine off the new paint job :eek:

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ovrszd
04-22-2008, 02:49 PM
Ouch!!!! That left a mark!!!! :eek:

roadrunner
04-22-2008, 06:26 PM
Must of been pretty hard snow bank, is that all the damage or anything else happen?
Paint sure looks nice, any full sized pictures of machine?

Grader4me
04-22-2008, 06:32 PM
Yeah, the snow banks were like concrete. That's the only picture that was sent to me. I've never seen one break like that.
That was the only damage.

Squizzy246B
04-22-2008, 06:37 PM
Do you reckon it'll Buff out?:rolleyes:

Grader4me
04-22-2008, 06:42 PM
Lol..yep..with a little elbow grease..:)

Tanstaafl
04-22-2008, 11:27 PM
Do you reckon it'll Buff out?:rolleyes:

Little JB Weld, some bondo, and a rattle can paint job should take care of that one no problem.;)

ovrszd
04-23-2008, 08:14 AM
I operate a Township grader maintaining about 50 miles of gravel road. I'm pretty picky about taking care of the taxpayers machine. I honestly don't know how I'd explain that?? :o

bigblueox
04-23-2008, 09:38 AM
reckon there wasn't a curb under that snow bank? not pointing fingers but i did that once. you wouldn't beleive how easy it is to tear a planatary apart doing that!

Legdoc
04-23-2008, 12:22 PM
Call the dealer and ask for a warranty repair! If it was a toaster you could swap it out at Wal-Mart!

Northart
04-23-2008, 01:52 PM
Here's something similar, pushing snowbanks back this time of year so the roads dry out.

These pictures were taken 5 yrs ago, or longer. CRS ?

The guys said that the bolts holding the tandem on, break off , they were recommended to drill them out and install the next size larger but never had done it. 1/2" to 9/16" or was it 9/16" to 5/8" Just "CRS" . Anyway something like that.

They put new bolts in and were up and running in another day. Sure looked disastrous when it was laying there.

ovrszd
04-23-2008, 02:01 PM
Great pics. But when I think about this, I would have thought the other side would break off sooner than the side toward the wing. Is this breakage caused more by the weight of the wing assembly and the downward pressure it applies to the grader than by the sideways pressure??

Northart
04-23-2008, 02:23 PM
Well, there are several factors contributing to the cause.

The use of Chainess tires, which is a soft rubber tread design that provides real gripping traction on ice and snow. They provide way more traction than the old Bias ply G2 design, that would slide sideways, or lose traction.

Then the bolts were not designed for the horizontal forces they are experiencing.

And the operator experience also, plays a part. Instead of angling upwards to relieve the force, they still try to shove it straight out on the level, into the hard frozen snow behind,instead of up and over.

ovrszd
04-23-2008, 02:39 PM
Yep, I understand that. We've got a wing that bolts to the end of the moldboard with a hinged bracket, then pushes against a bracket bolted to the backside of the moldboard using the cutting edge bolts in the center. It can create a lot of lateral force on the table if not used properly. Depending on how the moldboard is placed, you can change the way it tries to move snow. Upward and over the existing drift or straight sideways into the drift. It won't handle the load forces that this type of wing pictured will but it certainly allows you to pile snow extremely high and will reach out an easy fifteen feet outside the grader. In deep drifts, while using the plow, you can put the wing at the moldboard end of the plow and up off the ground about five feet and extend the push of the drift several feet further. Our wing is about ten feet long, moldboard height at the hinge and 4 feet tall at the end. I think it was originally designed to be used on a fixed frame grader and push against the tandem drive.

MKTEF
04-23-2008, 03:08 PM
Just a smal comment...
Champion has a reputation on having weak boogie boxes.
U can se how they bend when using the articulation on hard gravel, standing still.;)
A topic changed with the 900 series.

I haven't heard about the frames, but looks to be the right spot to break on.
Volvo is giving a garrantie on the 900 frames, don't know if they would have covered that.;)

But nice pics anyway:D

And by the way, a Veekmas here managed to bend his frame because of washboard, powerfull engine, pedal to the metall and weak frames.
He got a swinging movement in the grader and it got a lumpback.(not shure if thats the right word, but looked like a camel)

aqeel1
04-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Need couple of late 70's early 80's 740 champion graders, anyone be interested in getting rid of their old machines.

MKTEF
04-23-2008, 03:36 PM
We got original back fenders from Volvo on our graders...:cool:

So we mount chains on the wheels: pics 1.
Fenders is clearly not designed for chains so we removed them.
Put the bolts in place.....

After some weeks the front back wheel stops turning...

So we opened up and found this guy: Pics 2.

Talk about hitting right on the spot: Pics 3.
One of the bolts positioned apr 11 o'clock hits directly on the senter pin of the chain, and the chainlock/pin sticks out.
Bolt then presses the chainlock trough the chain, and whoula u only have 5wd.:(
U learn as u live....Bolts are clearly a bit to long for this exersize.
Of course we should have tought on that..
But who do late at night, saying all those nasty words, when u realise u have to take off the fenders?:confused:

Now we are disussing redesigning the fenders or changing rims to get bether cleareance between the wheel and fender..:rolleyes:
And we are a bit familiar with the inside of the boogieboxes on a couple of our 976 graders.:cool:

Grader4me
04-23-2008, 06:15 PM
I operate a Township grader maintaining about 50 miles of gravel road. I'm pretty picky about taking care of the taxpayers machine. I honestly don't know how I'd explain that?? :o

Had a bad day?:beatsme Sometimes things just happen no matter how careful you are.

We've got a wing that bolts to the end of the moldboard with a hinged bracket, then pushes against a bracket bolted to the backside of the moldboard using the cutting edge bolts in the center.

Any pictures??:)

reckon there wasn't a curb under that snow bank?

No, just mighty hard snow. When you are pushing back snowbanks like that with the vee plow anything can happen.

They put new bolts in and were up and running in another day. Sure looked disastrous when it was laying there.

Great pictures Northart. It does look bad doesn't it? The old girl just couldn't take the grief. Never seen a tandem break away like that.

Motor Grader
04-24-2008, 05:07 PM
How the heck do you tell your boss you broke the frame?:beatsme

Just for the record....The Champion Motor Graders in business today didn't build that grader or the other one with the broke tandem. Talk about bad publicity! Should have some pics of one of our compact graders soon. Seems someone broke into a customer's equipment yard and fired up the excavator and beat the crap out of the grader and a bull dozer. Can't wait to see the pics!

Just a smal comment...
Champion has a reputation on having weak boogie boxes.
U can se how they bend when using the articulation on hard gravel, standing still.;)
A topic changed with the 900 series.

I haven't heard about the frames, but looks to be the right spot to break on.
Volvo is giving a garrantie on the 900 frames, don't know if they would have covered that.;)

But nice pics anyway:D

And by the way, a Veekmas here managed to bend his frame because of washboard, powerfull engine, pedal to the metall and weak frames.
He got a swinging movement in the grader and it got a lumpback.(not shure if thats the right word, but looked like a camel)

Grader4me
04-24-2008, 07:01 PM
Just for the record....The Champion Motor Graders in business today didn't build that grader or the other one with the broke tandem. Talk about bad publicity!

Motor Grader, I didn't post that picture to cause you bad publicity. I posted because I decided to start sharing a few pictures of what I do, and the equipment that we work with. Ive never seen a grader break like that before regardless of make etc. so I decided to share.
Most of our fleet consists of Champion graders, and I don't have a negative thing to say about them. Unless we go back to the 1977 Champion that I run as that would be a different story..

Just a thought but if you're looking for good publicity, Steve still has spaces available above..

ovrszd
04-25-2008, 07:54 AM
Heheheheheh...... :cool2

Motor Grader
04-25-2008, 09:32 AM
I was just trying to be funny about the publicity statement. I wasn't insinuating that you did anything intentional. The picture was actually very helpful and we will use it as reference when we design front attachments. Keep those crazy grader pics coming.