Lincoln Grease Guns made in China: quality?

[cgraham]

I know Lincoln guns have had a great reputation. Intending to buy a regular pistol grip type for a small TBL, I discovered they have been made in China for the last 2 years at least.

Has anyone purchased Lincoln lately and found them to still be of high quality?

Their price is certainly high! If not Lincoln, what?

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I have been having trouble with grease leaking out between my (non-Linclon) grease gun snap-on head and the nipples on the hoe boom swing pins recently, instead of injecting through the fitting. (I feel no resistance, so don't know that there is a blockage). Changed out fitting for new - same problem. Other fittings take grease just fine. Strange! Thoughts?

I'm going to try an adjustable gun head today.

Comments much appreciated!

[Lashlander]

I always thought Lincoln made by far the best guns on the market. A while back they switched the lock on the plunger rod. Now when you are greasing the rod slips out and locks so you only get a couple pumps and it quits pushing grease. Then you have air and have to bleed the gun again. I've taken to tying a string on it to keep it in. Its a pain in the butt . I won't buy anymore Lincoln guns until they change this.
Lincoln has a booth at Con-Expo every year and I was going to stop by and let them know this but after looking forward to it since the last one I'm hung up on a hot dredging job in Seward so can't attend.:crying I need everyone to stop and complain for me.

[Countryboy]

We use these at work. Never had any problems out of them. Not sure where they get them from though.

We have a couple of pistol grips but I'm not sure if they are the same brand.

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[cgraham]

I've seen that Lincoln plunger lock, Lashlander. It looks convenient, but it's a cheap shortcut too.

Yeah, Countryboy, I have often seen Alemite mentioned in the same sentence as Lincoln. I wonder where they are made now.


I solved my second problem, by replacing the grease gun nozzle. Now when I can't get any more grease in the boom swing pin assy, the gun locks on to the grease fitting! The nozzle won't come off until I release pressure by backing off the adjuster on the nozzle until grease can flow back through its threads.

I took out the zerks, and probed down the grease channel in the pins to the horizontal channel: all clean grease, so there must be crud beyond that point. Agrrrh!

I'm wondering whether to apply PB Blaster or engine oil between the lugs where grease should be emerging, to help free things up.

Charlie

[rino1494]

Hmmm....we bought a lincoln gun this past year and it has been a good gun. The worst gun I ever owned was a Cat gun. After a few weeks, I ended up tossing it in the woods.

[ben46a]

Yeah the Cat guns are junk, They were made by alemite. I never had luck with anything but a lincoln.

[385Diggin' Doug]

Our oilers and mechanics use the 12 & 14V Lincoln Power Lubers.They love them.Even the Lincoln hand guns are still around for a long time.

[ror76a]

I have never had much luck keeping a hand gun around and working for more than about 2 years, and at that the Lincolns seemed to hold up best. I have a 12 & a 14V Lincoln that I love, however my "help" has managed to strip the threads out of where the cartrage screws onto the gun on the 12V. :mad: Other than that we have not had any problems with the electric guns.

[IowaCat08]

I have to second countryboy on the Alemite guns. I have had the same gun for 2 years now, it has probably went through a 1,000 tubes of grease and still works great. Many of our junky cat guns are being replaced with Alemites.

[Bentworker2]

Alemite makes all of their grease guns overseas... except for the Heavy-duty series. I paid about $93 for my 1056-SE4, it is built like no other gun that I have seen. I have not used it enough to give it a thumbs up or down, but it looks like it should last a very long time.



Here is a place listing it for $78
http://www.all-cordless.com/alhedumalegr.html

[tuney443]

$78 for a hand gun????They had Alemite and Lincoln cordless electric guns at Conexpo in Hartford for $175--$190 with a spare battery.

[Bentworker2]

Yes, $78.00 for manual gun... but it is made here, not in CHINA. I do have to say that the stupid expensive Alemite grease gun impressed me today, read below.



I dropped a tube into the brand new 1056-SE4 today, and I was impressed. On my super crusty 1987 CASE 1835C rust-bucket I had two pins that would not take any grease. I tried and tried to get some grease into them when I had the engine out of it for the rebuild this past winter (I bought it in November). With no luck I was figuring I would have to drive out the pins and clean everything up. Not so, this afternoon I took my new fancy pants Alemite grease gun, dropped it into the "pressure" pivot point on the handle (it has two positions) and squeezed the hell out of it. Like some sort of equipment miracle both pins took grease!

Why spend $50 on one of those zerk fitting cleaner do-dads that you load with light oil and whack with a hammer when you can just get a grease gun that will do the job? I really do believe that you can and will develop 10,000 psi with this gun if you need to.

[tuney443]

The Alemite salesman said the cordless model also developed 10,000 PSI.My days of manually pumping are over.

[Bentworker2]

Yep, the Alemite 585 series (14.4V) cordless ones are 10,000 psi.

The 575 series (12V) ones are only 6,500 psi.

I only own one crusty piece of equipment, which I only put a few hours a week on, so I have a manual gun.

[bobcat ron]

The biggest problem I have with the electric greaser are that it now takes twice as long to grease as the electric guns only pump out half as much as a hand gun, it used to take me 10 minutes with a hand gun on my 320CLU, now it's topping off at close to 20 minutes, is there and adjustment to speed up the pump?

[bkdlays]

Where do you buy Alemite?

I have no local dealers listed in my state or surrounding.

[Komatsu 150]

The biggest problem I have with the electric greaser are that it now takes twice as long to grease as the electric guns only pump out half as much as a hand gun, it used to take me 10 minutes with a hand gun on my 320CLU, now it's topping off at close to 20 minutes, is there and adjustment to speed up the pump?

This is why I quit using our Lincoln electric, it takes so long to grease the excavator.

[Bentworker2]

Alemite makes all of their grease guns overseas... except for the Heavy-duty series. I paid about $93 for my 1056-SE4, it is built like no other gun that I have seen. I have not used it enough to give it a thumbs up or down, but it looks like it should last a very long time.



Here is a place listing it for $78
http://www.all-cordless.com/alhedumalegr.html

bkdlays...
Check out this link

[bkdlays]

Thanks!

What about air? I noticed noone talks about air powered, but they seem like a good option for the price?

[Backhoe310SG]

Dad always has used Lincolns, and I did too when I got old enough to but my own grease gun. I wore out a pistol grip Lincoln that was made in the US and when I replaced they were made in China. I really liked my old pistol grip, but the China made one was the worst tool that I've ever owned, nothing but trouble from the time I bought it. I bought another china made gunfrom tractor supply, and it wasn't much better, but at least it didn't cost what the lincoln did. I ended up scrapping the china junk and used dads old US made Lever action until this winter. I bought a 14 volt Lincoln Power Luber and the old man and I both love it.

[Speedpup]

Best guns I ever bought but far were the John Deere. Probably moved to China like everything else but tey are easy to load and bleed. Miles ahead of Lincoln which I found near impossible.

http://www.greentoybox.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=2020

[stock]

We use these at work. Never had any problems out of them. Not sure where they get them from though.

We have a couple of pistol grips but I'm not sure if they are the same brand.

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Yea used to use them until I found these
www.fuchs-lubritech.com/cms/IMG/pdf_SR-pressen_e-2.pdf -
very clean, no leaks in the toolbox etc etc

[telescooper]

I perfer the Alemite guns very good quality, puts about 10,000 PSI, easy bleeding even when it cold out. Made in the USofA:usa. They have been in business for quite some time they make good stuff. I don't know how much they cost, don't care either. Since the lincoln guns are now inferior pices of PROC junk... [U]www.alemite.com
Telescooper

[Kingston]

Tele,
Are the cordless Alemite guns Us made? If so I'd be psyched!

[Kingston]

I just got off of the phone with Rodney at Alemite tech support. Alemite cordless grease guns are made in CHINA. Too bad.

[telescooper]

Kingston
The 500 professional series are manufactured in the USA. The others are made in foreign lands. Mine is a 500 series, very good gun. I had several of them thru the years, but they have a habit of walking off.
Telescooper

[Johnsoils]

Alemite makes great product from what my customers tell me. The only Alemite product I currently own is their grease zerk buster. For those of you that have grease zerks that won't take grease you simply fill the zerk buster with your favorite penetrating oil, place it on the zerk, and tap the plunger with a hammer lightly. The plunger will force the thin penetrating oil into the zerk and frozen pin after a while and free it up. I've had some badly frozen/plugged zerks come in the shop on buses and trucks spring shackles. Some require a minute of tapping and then allowing the penetrate time to work (a couple minutes) then a little more tapping and pow! It all breaks free and flushes through. Works great on the rear emergency door hinges on buses too. I'll see what the model number is when I get out to the shop and can even post a photo. I picked it up a the Nebraska power farming show in December from a Alemite dealer. It cost around $45.00 at the show. I can give you his contact information if you want it, I have his card out in the shop. I'm thinking about having him ship me another one so I'll have it on hand for my customers if they want to buy one.

[YoungOne]

Just bought my 14.4 powerluber, I had it sent home, and then here to iraq with me. It's a good deal i think because the army will pay for the grease. And I can always use it at home!!

I will let you guys know how it does, and what I think.

-Michael-

[joeeye59]

Anybody ever buy one of them rechargeable battery powered or Air Grease guns from the Harbor Freight Store or through their mail Order? I see they have a few powered type...

Seen from $13.99 to $80.00, not sure if they are worthy for Industrial or even light use?

They have Chicago Electric, Central Pneumatic, I never heard of them, have you?

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=grease+gun&Submit=Go

[Randy88]

We use primarily Lincoln, the cheap ones at farm stores we threw away, my biggest problem is they grow legs and walk off, none of my kids will tell me which ones they like best because they keep quiet and hang onto them for themselves, I finally bought an air operated Lincoln two years ago and love it, hold the trigger and grease keeps pumping and that stays in my service truck, nobody else has air to run it from their toolbox on their machine!!!!! I wanted to get an air greaser with a 5 gallon pail likes in shops but to get the dirt proof and moisture proof one to put in my service truck was about $1500 plus dollars and I figured I could lose or break a lot of hand held air grease guns for that. My oldest boy did say he liked the lever gun from john deere but he does bleed green so take it for what its worth. Years ago we did buy an air gun from Harbor Freight or some such place, never had power and you had to pull the trigger with every pump of the gun, not like my lincoln, you can pump the whole tube out with one pull, some days we'll pump out a whole box of tubes at one service intervall depending on how many machines are there, gets old in a hurry thats why I wanted a five gallon pail air greaser, anybody have any experience with those, they call them a contractors grease pump, supposed to be dirt and moisture proof canister, are they and will they work in the cold weather, the electric ones will only do about two tubes per battery and have two batteries and are slow, tried them, didn't like them, the older ones wouldn't pump cold grease, kept stripping out a plastic gear but someone said they fixed that problem.

[Randy88]

Stock
Go ahead and laugh, this hurts my pride just thinking about it, I gotta the dumbest moron around not to understand how a greasegun works but very slowly explain how that grease gun works, are the tubes made of steel and reuseable, just fit the top on a conventional grease tube, do you have to refill them yourself, how does the plunger work, spring loaded or is it by suction, and do they work in cold weather, not sure where your at I didn't do very well in geography, I slept though those classes in school, I see their made in Germany. What pressure is 150-400 bars in psi. I'm gonna have to apoligize to my kids I've always told them if nothing else your still smart enough to run a grease gun.

[mowzall]

Proprietary cartridges/system (non standard for us)
1 bar = 14.5 psi
Stock won't laugh, if he does ask him why Irishmen have to label their wellys (rubber boots) L & R ;)

[Randy88]

Thanks for the reply, my wife and kids have been laughing all afternoon after they found out I asked the question of how a grease gun works, something about not being smart enough to run one, I guess what goes around comes around to bite me!!! Don't think I'll ever live that one down, the boot thing isn't funny mine have my name on them so I actually get mine before my kids take them and I expect by morning my will have a R&L on too.

[stock]

Stock
Go ahead and laugh, this hurts my pride just thinking about it, I gotta the dumbest moron around not to understand how a greasegun works but very slowly explain how that grease gun works, are the tubes made of steel and reuseable, just fit the top on a conventional grease tube, do you have to refill them yourself, how does the plunger work, spring loaded or is it by suction, and do they work in cold weather, not sure where your at I didn't do very well in geography, I slept though those classes in school, I see their made in Germany. What pressure is 150-400 bars in psi. I'm gonna have to apoligize to my kids I've always told them if nothing else your still smart enough to run a grease gun.


Randy must admit had a bit of a laugh but if you click on the link and scroll down to the second page and look at the pictures it will explain it .http://www.fuchs-lubritech.com/cms/I...ressen_e-2.pdf -



Stock won't laugh, if he does ask him why Irishmen have to label their wellys (rubber boots) L & R


Nahh was very confused when they told to go in to the the toolstore ,and all I chould find was 3 shovels and they told me to take my pick , lost a couple of hours on that one ....


Stock

ps I mark me boots as c & d (as gailge)

[Randy88]

Thanks for the reply and not being too harsh, I got up this morning and sure enough my boots were marked DR&DL on the upper corner with this note attached, DR stands for Dads right and DL for Dads Left and neatly stuck in each one was a new tube of grease unopened with the writing on the outside, " This side up " with an arrow. Nobody is really fessing up to it weather its the wife or kids but on the seat of my pickup was a new grease gun with and arrow on it written with a marker and this note attached, "Line up arrows " " Anybody can run a grease gun " My guess is for the next 10 years I'm gonna get grease guns for christmas and grease tubes for my birthday, just gotta love family!!!! The upside maybe I won't have to hunt for a grease gun anymore.

[special tool]

Here is my new Lincoln 12 volt/6000 psi model.
My last one got dropped off a bucket that was raised 30 feet in the air and it landed (of course) on the only rock in 2 square miles of muddy clay.
I can't complain about it at all, though because my brother ran it over with a dump 5 years ago and it kept running. That thing was tough.

Only thing different about this one is the case doesn't have 2 spaces for spare tubes - maybe better because I carry a case of grease anyway. Can't do anything with only 3 tubes.

You guys can probably tell from this picture that my wife is not currently home.:drinkup

[trenchman]

Is that grease or grape jelly for the crackers.:D

[special tool]

Is that grease or grape jelly for the crackers.:D

That's the pre-lube they pack them with at the factory.
That, right there, is a virgin gun - or it WAS yesterday.

They must have fixed the lock problem, because this one doesn't have any problems - its pretty nice.

[jprt]

Has anyone used the Zee Line cordless grease gun?