DOT in NY bites

[tuney443]

Well,long story short,just when you think you're all legal,the DOT tells you otherwise.Last Wed.,going up to Albany with my backhoe on my 10 ton trailer being pulled by my 7500 dump,I run into a DOT inspection.Young kid,cocky,I can feel he wants to make my life miserable--sure power trip.After he can't find anything wrong,he wants to weigh the trailer--he does but then does more inspecting.So I ask him twice--how much longer,once at app. 40 min. in,the next time at app.1 hr.and 20min.---tells me 15min. more,then 20 min. more.I tell him an engineer is waiting for me 2 hours away--I have to give him an answer.So finally,he comes over with 3 pages in his hand--1 for minor violations--just warnings,the other 2 overweight tickets,1 for just over on the registered weight,the second over on the tires.I tell him impossible,been weighed before,always legal.Then,he drops the bomb--''Oh,yeah,by the way,I'm taking your trailer out of service."Said I would either have to unload the hoe or get another trailer. Bastard--ruined the whole day--had to unload the hoe,drive the truck and trailer back to the shop,then a friend drove me back so I could run the hoe over the road.Then,because 8:75--16.5's are not popular anymore,I had to run all the way up to Syracuse to get heavier 12 ply's that could run the weight that the cop had me down for. Un****ingbelievable.Sorry for the long rant.What pissed me off more than anything was the fact that all these old,ratty rigs that were pulling in to the inspection area were being waved through because there were only 2 inspectors.

[tuney443]

Forgot to mention that he wanted my shovel and a wood chock that was in my loader bucket thrown in the dump bed---safer he said---wasn't secured.Right next to the loader bucket in the A-frame storage area of my trailer sat a 5 gallon bucket of sand,8 or so more chocks,extra chains,etc. He never once said anything about that---haven't got around to making a cover yet for that.Just shows that it really depends on what inspector you get.I definitely have to get my old CB up and running to avoid these pricks.

[tonka]

Man that sux, any way you can fight it or would it not be worth the trouble?

[tuney443]

Man that sux, any way you can fight it or would it not be worth the trouble?

Well,10 minutes ago I plead not-guilty on the 2 tickets---probably be about 2 months until trial.

[Bob Horrell]

DOT stopped a water truck in my area (the guy owns a water company with several water trucks) and cited him for overweight. DOT said that he was overweight on one side of his rear axles. He went to court and beat it by saying that water equalizes itself and it would be impossible to be overweight on one side of an axle if he was weighed on level ground. He also asked to see the recent certification slip on the scales used and DOT couldn't produce them in court.
Right after that the DOT guys parked right outside of his place where he loads and inspected him almost every day for a while. They now stop him almost every time they see him or one of his trucks. You can't win with these guys even if you win one.

[surfer-joe]

That's pretty good Bob. So the water truck was over on one side huh? Hilarious!

[Sam]

Do as you are Told.
It's the Law! :bash

I'll be nice, now:
Gov't controls behavior with taxation and regulation.
It has been apparent, for years, that our gov't has been doing all they can, to take your money, slow you down and otherwise just get in the way.

Yet, you get a free pass, assistance and often subsidies, if you can't speak English.

More and more, I'm thinking that the vote is worthless.
Big brother is in full control, and it will get much worse, before it gets better.

Thank a liberal - D or R, it don't matter.

What to do?
Enforcement agencies, military, ect, are all too big and sophisticated, to fight. All you can do, is just roll right over.

I resent it.
What to do... ?

[RamDodge]

I wonder how a post about a DOT man on a power trip can turn into politics?

[tonka]

Do as you are Told.
It's the Law! :bash

I'll be nice, now:
Gov't controls behavior with taxation and regulation.
It has been apparent, for years, that our gov't has been doing all they can, to take your money, slow you down and otherwise just get in the way.

Yet, you get a free pass, assistance and often subsidies, if you can't speak English.

More and more, I'm thinking that the vote is worthless.
Big brother is in full control, and it will get much worse, before it gets better.

Thank a liberal - D or R, it don't matter.

What to do?
Enforcement agencies, military, ect, are all too big and sophisticated, to fight. All you can do, is just roll right over.

I resent it.
What to do... ? Hola Sam;61007, kay no habla, como esta?

[tuney443]

I wonder how a post about a DOT man on a power trip can turn into politics?

HOW? Women will tell you why. We all think with our little heads,not our big ones.:D Basically same thing though seriously---it's all about who has the power and who needs the money----could you imagine if the DOT had enough agents to stop every car,light truck on the road???? There would be immediate outrage.By the way, does anybody know why motor homes are exempt from getting inspected by the DOT at their checkpoints? That just doesn't seem right.

[DirtHauler]

Were you overweight? was there defects with your trailer?

[tuney443]

Were you overweight? was there defects with your trailer?

Yeah,like I said,2 overweights,nada on defects.

[DirtHauler]

Yeah,like I said,2 overweights,nada on defects.

Just curious about the out of service, was it due to the weight/tire size issue? Generally around they will not take you out of service for weight unless its a safety issue (too much weight for number of axels with breaks) not just due to tire size/bridge law (lenght) violation. Did you figure out what changed to cause you to be overweight?

[tuney443]

Just curious about the out of service, was it due to the weight/tire size issue? Generally around they will not take you out of service for weight unless its a safety issue (too much weight for number of axels with breaks) not just due to tire size/bridge law (lenght) violation. Did you figure out what changed to cause you to be overweight?

It was a safety issue.10 ply tires that were on it were not adequate for the load so I had to upgrade to 12 ply.My fault I guess as long as those scales were accurate--I should have weighed my new hoe beforehand--way heavier than the owner's manual would have you believe.I definitely am going to weigh in each dual tire setup independently before I go to trial.

[ctkiteboarding]

same **** here with the local ******* , he hit me for well over a grand in violations ,tied me up for the morning, mostly B.S. , he had me unload and promise to move the hoe on another trailer and bring the trailer back to the yard empty, then left the scene , i waited 20 mins loaded my hoe and left the scene myself , pleaded not gulity to all counts, 1st court date when he showed up i asked for a continuence to waste his morning, the second time no show from the ahole and they threw it out after a 50 to the local charity of my choice, bottom line be super nice when they stop you and fight tooth and nail if its unjustified

[mikef87]

CT is tough esp. those scales down there on 84. A lowbed guy around here went to CT to get a loader, they stopped him for 2 hours because he had an air lift axle on the rear of the trailer and they said the trailer was to long to not have a permit. They were wrong, but it cost him 2 hours of being held up. They should spend more time busting these drug addicts and criminals than the working man whose paying taxes.

[Sam]

Hola Sam;61007, kay no habla, como esta?

No, other than one word: "Hola".
Learned that years ago, when I was influenced by motivation and ambition. That's not the problem that it used to be...

I'm easily confused, as well.
"61007" - This leaves me scratching my head.
I still have all my hair, though.

And, do not confuse this as being an apology.

[xcavate]

The Dot here got me for driving a F550 with a bobcat trailer for not having a CDL Class A license. I guess any truck towing a trailer over 10,000 lbs in MA you need a class A license. I thought that only applied to class B vehicles towing a trailer over 10,000.

[iron kid]

the great thing about that is you take a pick up and a trailer to get your class A
then go and jump into a 18 wheeler

[xcavate]

Yea I would still have to go back for an air brake endorsement but still much easier doing a pre trip on a F550 and driving it is way easier

[tuney443]

NY is a lot easier that way---you need 26K LBS. to need a class A

[Freightrain]

Ya, but taking the test TWICE because you find you need the air endorsement at a later date.....sux. The air endorsement is not a simple test add-on like tanker or triples. You have to take the WHOLE thing over again(pre-trip and road test)

I did it the dirty way...study the book for a few months rent a truck/trailer at test station and walk away with class A CDL. The trucks they have are little single axle Binders with synchro'd 5 spds and 40 ft flatbeds. It don't get any easier then that. You have to pay for it, but alot easier then any other option.

[xcavate]

I thought it was a simple add on. I dont think they will make me do it all over again. The only difference is the air leak test which is like 20 steps.

[mikef87]

The Dot here got me for driving a F550 with a bobcat trailer for not having a CDL Class A license. I guess any truck towing a trailer over 10,000 lbs in MA you need a class A license. I thought that only applied to class B vehicles towing a trailer over 10,000.

All my bobcat trailers are registered and tagged for 9,990 lbs. I ordered a 12,000 lbs trailer and the salesman got them to put a 9,990 lbs tag on it. I'd rather pay the overweight fines than the no class a fine. My son took a Pete 330 six wheel dump truck automatic with a 20 ton tag trailer. My oldest son took the lowbed, which was a mistake. That's gotta be the hardest combo. Like said earlier the best combo is a 6 wheel tractor with a 5 spd and a 40 ft flat.

[NateV]

I thought it was a simple add on. I dont think they will make me do it all over again. The only difference is the air leak test which is like 20 steps.

In PA you would have to do the road test over again. On my permit there was a place for the air brakes for the on road test to make sure you can properly use them. And I think you would have to do the air brake test too.

[woberlin]

Ya, but taking the test TWICE because you find you need the air endorsement at a later date.....sux. The air endorsement is not a simple test add-on like tanker or triples. You have to take the WHOLE thing over again(pre-trip and road test)

I did it the dirty way...study the book for a few months rent a truck/trailer at test station and walk away with class A CDL. The trucks they have are little single axle Binders with synchro'd 5 spds and 40 ft flatbeds. It don't get any easier then that. You have to pay for it, but alot easier then any other option.

Hey Freightrain, what company did you take tour test through, and what did they charge for the truck rental? I have to upgrade my B to an A, and that might be the way to go for me. Thanks!

[Freightrain]

I went to Gnadenhutten, east of rt77, on Rt36 about couple miles. I think the truck/trailer rental was $175 for the test.

8334 State Route 36 SE
Gnadenhutten, OH 44629
(740) 254-9313

xcavate, I'm right sure you'll have to take the whole test again, as I questioned it back when I went to take test.

The whole thing was you CAN NOT drive the commercial vehicle HOME from the test. You must have someone with you to drive the truck home(another CDL driver). That is why I did it the way I did. Beside not having another person with CDL to go with me...they surely couldn't drive a two stick truck too LOL! You can NOT drive a commercial vehicle again until you actually get your printed license. Don't ask why? Some kind of snafu in the laws?

[74inchShovel]

This crap is maddening- In Wa. the CDL manual has a full page of exemptions, I personally know a guy with 4 heart attacks driving a 18 wheeler, only because he is farm exempt-no way would he pass a DOT physical. All the State, County, City rigs have exempt on the plates, guys are out driving 40,000 pound plow rigs with no CDL. 16 year olds driving CDL required trucks- Farm Exempt- HOW CAN YOU BE EXEMPT FROM PUBLIC SAFETY??????

[camara]

Also what about Fire Fighters............Driving a 10 wheeler or Triaxle fire truck on a class D Lic. Why are they exempt? Public Safety? No Air Brake endorsement! If I remember correctly a few years ago the City of Framingham had an engine roll over because the operator was going too fast and trying to turn. I am not trying to take anything away from Fire Fighters. I know a lot of them and they are hard working good people but why shouldn't they have to get licensed correctly too! I got grabbed by DOT a couple of days ago. I just purchased an older Autocar and was taking it for a state & federal inspection sticker. After talking to him, and him being reasonable, he let me continue on. But as we were parting ways he said " I haven't seen this truck out before and I am going to keep my eyes on you!"

[landrvrnut22]

The Dot here got me for driving a F550 with a bobcat trailer for not having a CDL Class A license. I guess any truck towing a trailer over 10,000 lbs in MA you need a class A license. I thought that only applied to class B vehicles towing a trailer over 10,000.


This is becoming quite common. They are trying to crack down on illegal hotshotters, and this is one way to do it. Hotshotters are using dually pickups to haul 15,000+ and bypassing alot of the laws. But they are being paid, and therefore technically have to have a CDL, and DOT Registration.

The way the law is worded, if you are towing any trailer over 10,000lbs or up, you are considered a commercial carrier. It doesnt matter if you are hauling your personal vehicles, horses, cows, lumber, etc. It is getting so extreme, that if you are hauling your show cars and are over 10000lbs. You could be seen as commercial because you could win awards that have a monetary value, and then you are making a profit. They see you as a business enterprise, and as such, you are required to have a CDL and DOT registration. You have to prove that you are hauling for your personal use. The fines for this will also be very steep, in the neighborhood of $5000, plus costs to get your truck and trailer back as they will impound them.

There is a good and bad side to all of this. It will keep illegal hotshotters off the road, but it will affect a lot of people out there who have a hobby or doing a favor for a friend, etc.

I am actually worried about this, because I haul horses. I am a 4-H advisor, and haul horses to shows, and county fairs, etc. I have a 3 horse gooseneck that is rated at 9975lbs. gross. I am just barely under, but my 3/4ton dodge, pulls that weight just fine. Now in the future, I will probably buy a bigger trailer, and then what do I do? I would have to have a CDL to pull horses on the weekends for 12 year olds to shows? Thats just stupid. Or do I risk having my truck and trailer impounded, and have to fight to get it released, and prove that I am not being paid for it?

My piece of advice, check your laws in your area before you go. It could save you alot of time and hassle.

[Steve Frazier]

I'm not sure where the idea of needing to make money with the vehicle comes from, the laws are written according to weight and are not dependent upon income. If you choose to own a vehicle, whether it be a camper, horse trailer or what have you that exceeds the weight requirement that would dictate a CDL, well then you ought to look in to getting one. I don't understand the fear of CDLs, if you own the vehicle that requires one, then simply get the permit, schedule an exam appointment and take the test. Now you are absolved of all the fears that you've listed.

From what I understand, these laws have been on the books for a long time but were rarely enforced. I met a man in the local feed store that was complaining he had been ticketed for towing his over width pleasure boat with his pickup without a permit and fined $450. I'm a volunteer fireman and as mentioned, we are exempt from CDL rules, but you may see that change before long, there has been talk for the past few years of requiring CDLs. Owners of large motor coaches, which resemble tour buses are now required to get a special Class B license to operate. Things are becoming more level, most likely as the result of accidents and injuries.

[DirtHauler]

Does anyone one know for certain if not for hire/private trucks must have tonnage license for the proper GVW? Does Grampa John need to increase his GVW on his pickup registration for pulling a 15k 5th wheel recreational vehical?

(no I actually do not know the answer, I am not trying to be a smart azz)

[xcavate]

How much tread do you need on your tires to be DOT compliant?

[xcavate]

Does anyone one know for certain if not for hire/private trucks must have tonnage license for the proper GVW? Does Grampa John need to increase his GVW on his pickup registration for pulling a 15k 5th wheel recreational vehical?

(no I actually do not know the answer, I am not trying to be a smart azz)

I am pretty sure the tonnage rules just apply to vehicles registred commercially. If you have a F-350 dually with passenger plates and a big camper your excempt. The same F-350 dually with commercial plates and the same trailer you would need a class A. Thats how it is in massachusetts or atleast how it was explained to me.

[greywynd]

I am pretty sure the tonnage rules just apply to vehicles registred commercially. If you have a F-350 dually with passenger plates and a big camper your excempt. The same F-350 dually with commercial plates and the same trailer you would need a class A. Thats how it is in massachusetts or atleast how it was explained to me.

Here in Ontario, it doesn't matter about RV or not, exceed the trailer weight rating for your license and you could be in trouble. (Would have to check, I think, thanks to the metric system, it might be 5,000 kilograms, or 11,000 lbs.)

To tow anything heavier requires a Class "a" license here.

Straight trucks, such as Tandems or Tri axle dumps, etc, require a class 'd' license. Again, I'd have to check exact numbers, but I think it's anything in excess of 10,000 kg,s or 22,000 lbs.

Anything with air brakes requires a 'z' endorsement, a lot of people take a weekend course at a college to obtain that one here, about $3-400.

To throw another wrench into the mess, anything having a combined total weight of over 4500kgs, or 10,000 lbs, is to be safetied every year. If it's a 1/2 ton with a trailer, and it weighs 10,500 lbs, it needs a safety. The grey area, is what needs to have logs and circle checks done and what doesn't. I talked to an enforcement officer about this, and they really don't know themselves.

In my case, I make sure everything is safe, but don't necessarily get all the i's dotted and t's crossed.....I know the rules, but since enforcement is spotty in my local area, I just hope I can plead 'stupid' and have a generous officer the first time. :D

[CM1995]

I am pretty sure the tonnage rules just apply to vehicles registred commercially. If you have a F-350 dually with passenger plates and a big camper your excempt. The same F-350 dually with commercial plates and the same trailer you would need a class A. Thats how it is in massachusetts or atleast how it was explained to me.

That's correct. What really ticks me off is someone who has only driven a Honda their whole life can go buy a Greyhound bus motorhome and hit the road!:Banghead No training, no special license required - nothing!

Commercial drivers have to go through special training/licensing and spot "rectal exams" by the local DOT inspectors.:Banghead

[Bob Horrell]

DOT legal tread limits are 4/32 inch on fronts and 2/32 on rear.

[RollOver Pete]

Commercial drivers have to go through special training/licensing and spot "rectal exams" by the local DOT inspectors.:Banghead

Next time you go in for your DOT mandated test where they want you to give them a sample of something, ask them this...

Hows about I just give y'alls my britches :confused:
I recon that way y'all will have any one of 3 samples ta choose from...:professor
:cool:

[CM1995]

Next time you go in for your DOT mandated test where they want you to give them a sample of something, ask them this...

Hows about I just give y'alls my britches :confused:
I recon that way y'all will have any one of 3 samples ta choose from...:professor
:cool:

:laugh:laugh:falldownlaugh:falldownlaugh:exactly

[RollOver Pete]

I have yet to gather up enough testicular fortitude to try that....
Perhaps one day......
:cool:

[dirtboy]

You cant win with these guys. Just smile. They were probably teased when they were little now its payback time.

[BIGDAN315]

When ever there is money to be made you can bet godd ole uncle sam will be there with his hand in your pocket. Whether it be taxes, Hut,or DOT fines.Fuel tax, etc. etc. It's no wonder why trucking is getting so expensive. We just have to pass these expenses on and In the end it's the consumer who pays the price. Don't get me wrong I am not against dot laws . It can be good system and it is there to keep everyone safe but it is when it is abused by some power hungry troopers that gets my blood boiling.

[tuney443]

That young wise-azz who pulled me out of service was most definitely abusing his authority.He gave me every indication I would be able to leave after 1.5 hours of giving my truck the equivalent of a blue gloved anal exam,only to drop the bomb.I'm watching him very carefully,he will make a mistake and I will take advantage of it.Absolutely no need for bastards like him out there.

[RollOver Pete]

Today while I was W.B. I-10 @ the Banning scales....
Oops....I did it again...:rolleyes:
:cool:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy-1APuqzhM

[JBL]

Did you honk and wave when you went by? :D

[tuney443]

Funny thing happened yesterday at lunch.Local pub/restaurant where I go usually once a week had the same 2 dep't of Trouble officers who hassled me back 4-5 weeks ago.{So I guess they've managed not to get themselves murdered:D}Pretty sure,the young one recognized me and for sure most of the other patrons who were truck drivers of some sort definitely recognized them.Tension was thick I tell you until they left and then everyone was cracking up.We were all commenting how uptight they looked while there.Don't think they'll be coming back anytime soon but I'd love to spike their food with some laxative if they do.;)

[PROCUT1]

I know all too when about them.

I saw on the Newburgh-Beacon bridge the other day...

They had a landscaper with a Mitsubishi Fuso FG 4x4 dump.

A little info on these trucks for those that dont know about them.

4 cylinder cabover dump trucks
GVW 12,500
Empty weight 11,200

So their capacity is legally a little over half a ton....Its rediculous....However they have HUGE dump beds on them with 10 yard capacity.

So many of these landscapers buy these trucks not knowing about DOT laws and think that they have a 10 yard bed, they can load them right up.

I had one myself, but after getting an overweight ticket with 3 yards of mulch in it, I got rid of it.

This guy at the DOT stop, had a FULL LOAD of dirt in the truck, at least 7 ton....And ontop of that had a skidsteer trailer with a skidsteer and 3 or 4 attachments on it.

Again, legal payload on this truck is less than one ton...

I cant even begin to imagine what this cost him.

[DirtHauler]

:eek: Wait till the scale master in your area gets motivated like our local DOT did. :eek:

Crackdown on unsafe semis in Grays Harbor Co.

06:05 PM PST on Friday, February 15, 2008

By DREW MIKKELSEN / KING 5 News



Crackdown finds big rig problems SEATTLE – A crackdown on truck drivers suggests an overwhelming majority of semis have something wrong with them.

One of the drivers pulled over recently in Grays Harbor County was ticketed for being 66,000 pounds overweight – a new Washington state record.

It also set another state record – a nearly $17,000 ticket.

Grays Harbor Sheriff's deputies partially blame commercial trucks with an exceptionally high number of fatal collisions, so the county and the Washington State Patrol increased their truck inspections for two days this week.

Of the 163 trucks inspected, 94 percent were cited for moving or mechanical violations. In 34 percent of those trucks, the violations were so severe, they had to be taken out of service.

"Not all of the industry is being as careful as they could about quality and the conditions of their trucks," said Grays Harbor Co. Undersheriff Rick Scott.

The day after the stepped-up patrols, the driver of one truck lost control and rolled into a ditch.

"He had lost sensation in the lower extremities when they transported him," said Lt. Matt Stowers, Grays Harbor Co. Sheriff's Office.

Investigators say there was no seatbelt in the cab. Speed was a factor, but police say mechanical problems with the truck also played a role.

"You have to take it seriously otherwise somebody's going to get hurt," said truck driver Vince Carson. He has received minor violations while driving his truck for the last seven years, but he considers himself safer then most car drivers and says no industry is as regulated as trucking.

"To me, sometimes, it's nit-picking, sometimes it's not. I mean sure, there are truck drivers that are doing the wrong things," said Carson.

The truck that got the record-setting ticket is owned by the Dilley and Solomon Logging Company. It had no comment on the citation

[chico]

you guys are scaring me!!!!! I dont want to see D.O.T. I will be a nervous wreck!!!

[tuney443]

you guys are scaring me!!!!! I dont want to see D.O.T. I will be a nervous wreck!!!

Sorry--but death,taxes--DOT:D---make your CB your new best friend---I'm going to install mine tomorrow--at least you might have a chance to circumvent the bastards.

[bear]

I was in wisconsin or one of the more northern states when i used to drive and was told i had an overloaded truck. the problem with this was IT WAS EMPTY!!! major snafu for the DOT boy. He didn't like having egg mud and other worse things on his face and he didn't like the fact i kept all the state Weights and Measures Bureaus(?) in my phone memory. last i heard DOT station was shut down and Little Dot Guy wasn't working for the state any more.:D :drinkup :usa :)

[nedly05]

you guys are scaring me!!!!! I dont want to see D.O.T. I will be a nervous wreck!!!

Just you wait! you'll come around a corner and BAM, there they will be, the red lights will come on, suddenly you will feel naucious, your knees will get weak, you will shake and studder uncontrollably, most likely some form of paperwork will be missing, then they start the inspection.........:eek:

[tuney443]

Just you wait! you'll come around a corner and BAM, there they will be, the red lights will come on, suddenly you will feel naucious, your knees will get weak, you will shake and studder uncontrollably, most likely some form of paperwork will be missing, then they start the inspection.........:eek:

Probably the same thing Eliot Spitzer just experienced.:D---Don't know about the inspection part.

[woodchuck2]

I have a ? that may be off-topic but you fella's would know the answer better than i. What is the most you can tow with a 3/4 ton truck with a class-D license before you are out of class? I have looked into the different class license's for NY but they seem to contradict each other when it comes to towing and weight allowed.My truck is an 06 D-Max with a rating of 12k on the hitch and 23k for a 5er. Why would an Auto manufacturer sell a truck to tow that much if you need a different class of license to drive it.

[tuney443]

I have a ? that may be off-topic but you fella's would know the answer better than i. What is the most you can tow with a 3/4 ton truck with a class-D license before you are out of class? I have looked into the different class license's for NY but they seem to contradict each other when it comes to towing and weight allowed.My truck is an 06 D-Max with a rating of 12k on the hitch and 23k for a 5er. Why would an Auto manufacturer sell a truck to tow that much if you need a different class of license to drive it.

Your license is fine for any LEGAL weight with your truck.I believe from memory,it's app.26,500 lbs. or more for the need to a Class A license.The onus is on you the user of the truck for securing the correct license--NOT the manufacturer.It's like owning a firearm---you can buy one,but legally you need a permit/license to use it.

[nedly05]

Probably the same thing Eliot Spitzer just experienced.:D---Don't know about the inspection part.

He got in trouble because he was payin $4300 for the inspection!!!!

Ya know how to slow a prostitute down?? Put a governer on her!!!:D

[stretch]

He got in trouble because he was payin $4300 for the inspection!!!!

Ya know how to slow a prostitute down?? Put a governer on her!!!:D

:lmao :falldownlaugh Nice one nedly!!!

By the way, if anyone is passing through Stafford, CT on WB I-84, the weigh station has been running again this past year...I think they may have been working on on the scales along I-95 around the Waterford/New London area also.

CTDOT has been really cracking down...remember Avon Mountain? I believe commercial trucks are banned from going over the mountain now. :ban I also found out that the DOT sometimes stops company pickups too, even unmarked ones...just some advice I thought I'd give.

[PROCUT1]

NAILED!!!!!!

Yep

Im the salesman for the company so I rarely go on the road with a crew. Well we we;re short a driver so I decided to get out of the office and go run a few loads of mulch.

I went out to the yard and saw 3 dumptrucks...A big international, a mitsubishi fuso, or a little gmc.

Well considering it was mulch the gmc had a small bed, and the international was overkill so I took the mitsu.

Well that was a mistake. That was just switched over from winter service and hasnt been totally set up for the summer.

Well off I go to the mulch supplier, get loaded and head down the road. Make the turn and here come the red lights behind me.

7 violations, a new tire, and an hour with diesel road service, my truck was back in service.

woo hoo

[crash935]

By the way, if anyone is passing through Stafford, CT on WB I-84, the weigh station has been running again

I'll be sure to bring coffee and donuts on Monday when i roll thru!!!

[tuney443]

I'll be sure to bring coffee and donuts on Monday when i roll thru!!!

Connecticut likes things from NY.Better bring Eliot's prostitute for extra insurance.:D

[stretch]

I'll be sure to bring coffee and donuts on Monday when i roll thru!!!

Well, the truck stop is the exit right after the weigh station so better stock up on some donuts before then...

Is it Tuesday? Ooops, guess I posted too late! Well, just for next time!

[newbie]

Justremember to really hit the brakes when pass over the portable scales :) They really like when you do that. :oops

[crash935]

Its been pretty quite up that way for me, scale has been closed everytime i went thru there. Did see the DOT working over more landscaper trucks on the side of the highway again though.

Ohio was on a rampage this week, every coop i went by was full of bears climbing over trucks. Thought my number was up when i got a red light but the fine officer just told me over the speaker that it might be a good idea if i pulled to the side and put my fuel cap back on (DUH!).

Rumor is that the first week of June will be the big CVSA nationwide 72 hour DOT BLITZ. They dont work just the weight stations and rest areas during that time so watch for the EVERYWHERE!

I get a break from the East Coast this week, going to make a run to Florida with a few stops on the way, and NO, i'm not going to Disney land!

[xalexjx]

Iv been stopped in albany too bringing a 115 down to abele a while back, Those guys must have nothing to do, they went over everything on my truck/ trailer and found nothing, except one chain hook he said was fastened improperly :rolleyes: So i fixed it and went on my way. I have seen a few trucks in there though that shouldnt touch pavement.. :Pointhead

[nedly05]

Iv been stopped in albany too bringing a 115 down to abele a while back, Those guys must have nothing to do, they went over everything on my truck/ trailer and found nothing, except one chain hook he said was fastened improperly :rolleyes: So i fixed it and went on my way. I have seen a few trucks in there though that shouldnt touch pavement.. :Pointhead

I know what ya mean, I usually get away without too much trouble (knock on wood) but when they set up in town they usually have a few trucks backed up. What part of upstate are you from xalexjx?

[alan627b]

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[woodchuck2]

I know what ya mean, I usually get away without too much trouble (knock on wood) but when they set up in town they usually have a few trucks backed up. What part of upstate are you from xalexjx?

If he is who i think he is then he is from Newcomb. About a half hour drive North of me. Where in the Adirondacks are you from?

[nedly05]

Essex County, we used to play ball in Newcomb in school. I know a guy whos brother in law is a dirt guy in Newcomb.

[xalexjx]

If he is who i think he is then he is from Newcomb. About a half hour drive North of me. Where in the Adirondacks are you from?


Yup that me. From newcomb, Didnt know you were on all these other boards.. :D

Nedly, you from Scroon Lake?


Yeah, DOT doesnt bother us too much up here. Only been stopped 2-3 times in the past two years. Once in Albany and twice up here..

[nedly05]

I'm from Keene, DOT likes to set up at the intersection of 9N and 73 at the bottom of spruce hill up here at least once a month until the summer people come around then they back off so the people wont have to look at something like a DOT inspection in the scenic corridor of the Adks. For once the summer folk have a good use!! Has all of the snow melted in Newcomb? don't you get quite a bit more down there? A couple years ago there was an old town truck for sale in the want ad digest in Newcomb, I called on it once, was thats you selling it?

[xalexjx]

Nope that was a truck a good friend bought. He thought he would use it to haul but ended up selling it. It wasn't in the best of shape frame wise. We've been digging for about two weeks but its been pretty slow. We have three excavators and only one has been running consistently..

DOT also likes to set up at the high peaks welcome center, but im very rarely headed up that way.

[woodchuck2]

Yup that me. From newcomb, Didnt know you were on all these other boards.. :D

Nedly, you from Scroon Lake?


Yeah, DOT doesnt bother us too much up here. Only been stopped 2-3 times in the past two years. Once in Albany and twice up here..

Yeah, i am on several boards. I found this board when looking for info on my mini-ex. Its a good site. You gotta watch buying any equipment from municipalities, always in the salt and very rarely cleaned. Any truck i have ever seen at auction always had frame issues. All the fuel lines, brake lines, electric harnesses, etc were always badly corroded too.
DOT doesnt seem to bother much around here, not until you get into Saratoga do you see them much. I know Warren County was talking of doing road checks but i havent heard much about it in the last few years. They were talking of buying scales, buying a few designated vehicles and hiring a few designated Road Patrol Officers for this. I beleive the amount of collected revenue compared to the cost came into question. It is probably better that they dont anyway, good way to upset the local guys.

[nedly05]

Nope that was a truck a good friend bought. He thought he would use it to haul but ended up selling it. It wasn't in the best of shape frame wise. We've been digging for about two weeks but its been pretty slow. We have three excavators and only one has been running consistently..

DOT also likes to set up at the high peaks welcome center, but im very rarely headed up that way.

We've been going pretty strong now for about 2-3 weeks, we have some bigger jobs coming up, but so far it has been small stuff. It's a funny year so far, we have 3 excavators as well, and the only one that has been busy so far is the 3 ton:eek:. I am moving the 8 ton this weekend and we just picked up a road job today so the 14 ton will be busy then.

[xalexjx]

yeah, we own two kobelco 115's and a kubota mini an 85hp dozer, two loaders a crushing plant/ screening plant and some other stuff . We had a kobelco 160 on a rent to buy program, but with fuel prices and the amount we used it we got rid of it. We have enough to keep two or three of us busy basically but not a whole lot more. Started out slow but its picking up slowly. We have 1/3 of a mile of road to finish, all with underground primary. But we aren't going to get back there until some of the small stuff slows down. Not a lot of new houses. Last year we did about 17-18 complete new house jobs and this year we only have two as of right now and one will be done next week once it dries up a tad..

[woodchuck2]

It has been all small jobs for me also. Finishing up a small driveway now, have a problematic septic to dig up in Bakers Mills for a friend of mine who is a contractor. I gave him a bit of a break just to get more work from him down the road. I did another septic two weeks ago, other than that i have been using my machine to load the dump trailer with scrap steel since the prices are up. I have been making better money cleaning up more own yard than pulling wires lately. If DOT were to catch me with my small dump trailer i would be screwed though. I have been pulling in 4.5-5 ton on the little bugger and it pulls great. It is only a 7k trailer so i have to be careful with it, i have one maybe two more loads and i will be done. I run all the backs roads to the scrap yard so i keep my speed around 30 mph, fewer trips with theses fuel prices.

[woodchuck2]

I'm from Keene, DOT likes to set up at the intersection of 9N and 73 at the bottom of spruce hill up here at least once a month until the summer people come around then they back off so the people wont have to look at something like a DOT inspection in the scenic corridor of the Adks. For once the summer folk have a good use!! Has all of the snow melted in Newcomb? don't you get quite a bit more down there? A couple years ago there was an old town truck for sale in the want ad digest in Newcomb, I called on it once, was thats you selling it?

Keene huh? Nice country up that way. I usually go up through there up to Keesville and take the ferrie to Vermont. It is alot less stressful of a drive going over to Champlain Valley Fairgrounds for the truck show in August. I guess there wont be a show this year so i wont me making my annual trip up through your town. You know John/Leanne at J/L Auto or "Tinker" Graves in Scroon Lake? Tinker lost a truck and trailer off the side of I-87 two years ago just North of exit 27. The bolts for the PTO sheared off letting it drop into the roadway, the drive axles locked up causing the truck/trailer to jack knife. His driver said he was doing about 65mph when he heard a bang, the stick shift ripped out of his hands and drove itself into the passenger seat, the truck went broadside spinning around and down over the bank he went backwards. The truck was totalled, Tinker salvaged the trailer which was new and luckily empty and the last i heard he was going after the company that had just installed a new clutch a week before the accident.

[nedly05]

yeah, we own two kobelco 115's and a kubota mini an 85hp dozer, two loaders a crushing plant/ screening plant and some other stuff . We had a kobelco 160 on a rent to buy program, but with fuel prices and the amount we used it we got rid of it. We have enough to keep two or three of us busy basically but not a whole lot more. Started out slow but its picking up slowly. We have 1/3 of a mile of road to finish, all with underground primary. But we aren't going to get back there until some of the small stuff slows down. Not a lot of new houses. Last year we did about 17-18 complete new house jobs and this year we only have two as of right now and one will be done next week once it dries up a tad..


Do you have a pit that you use the crusher in? Do you make gravel and what not?

[xalexjx]

yeah we have a gravel pit that we used it in but were pretty much done making / selling material,, due to all the mining permit requirements... Ever hear of Trudeau? Thats my dads cousin, we get most of our stuff from peckehms

[nedly05]

yeah we have a gravel pit that we used it in but were pretty much done making / selling material,, due to all the mining permit requirements... Ever hear of Trudeau? Thats my dads cousin, we get most of our stuff from peckehms


We did the same, but we get our gravel from graymont,how are peckhams prices? I know Mark, we buy all of our salted sand there in the winter, and get quite a bit of there stone in the summer, thats a great business they have.

[xalexjx]

We did the same, but we get our gravel from graymont,how are peckhams prices? I know Mark, we buy all of our salted sand there in the winter, and get quite a bit of there stone in the summer, thats a great business they have.

They're a little pricey.. but he cuts us a little bit of a break with the amount that we know. My uncle John runs Tri-axle for them when ever he's not hauling for us.. Sent ya a PM...

[nedly05]

They're a little pricey.. but he cuts us a little bit of a break with the amount that we know. My uncle John runs Tri-axle for them when ever he's not hauling for us.. Sent ya a PM...

They are a bit pricey, but they have a little bit of overhead, nice fleet of trucks and equipment they have. Any pics of the tri-axle?

[xalexjx]

Its actually his own truck but i can find one.. Only a year old or so.. its a really nice truck ;)

[soopa]

I'm one of those landscapers whose embarrassingly ignorant of what's required of them when hauling. I haven't been picked up, yet.

Can someone help me determine what docs/licenses I should have / be carrying?

We do landscaping & light excavation, I typically run our newer Isuzu NPR-HD dump. It has a GVWR/GCWR of 14,500/20,500 lbs. I'm not sure of it's curb weight, but I believe the cab+chassis to be about 5,500 lbs and I know the composite body is less than 1500 lbs. Body+payload allowance is in the 9500 lb range, and I usually don't fill it too much.

Usually pulling a 13,800 lb GVWR trailer with an empty weight of ~2,700 lbs and will load machines anywhere from 4000 lbs (micro-ex) to 7500 lbs (mini-ex), nearly 10,000 lbs (T300).

No CDL. At what point am I breaking the law?

[mikef87]

I'm one of those landscapers whose embarrassingly ignorant of what's required of them when hauling. I haven't been picked up, yet.

Can someone help me determine what docs/licenses I should have / be carrying?

We do landscaping & light excavation, I typically run our newer Isuzu NPR-HD dump. It has a GVWR/GCWR of 14,500/20,500 lbs. I'm not sure of it's curb weight, but I believe the cab+chassis to be about 5,500 lbs and I know the composite body is less than 1500 lbs. Body+payload allowance is in the 9500 lb range, and I usually don't fill it too much.

Usually pulling a 13,800 lb GVWR trailer with an empty weight of ~2,700 lbs and will load machines anywhere from 4000 lbs (micro-ex) to 7500 lbs (mini-ex), nearly 10,000 lbs (T300).

No CDL. At what point am I breaking the law?

If you have a trailer over 10,000 lbs you need a Class A. If the trailer is registered for under 10,000 lbs and it's overweight over 10,000 lbs you need a Class A license. But you can drive a truck that is 26,000 lbs with a trailer that is under 10,000 lbs and not need a CDL. But for your situation you'll need to go get your Class A license.

[soopa]

Once I started writing those numbers down, I had a feeling that would be someone's response. I guess I just never looked at the big picture. The truck & the trailer feel so small... I'm used to seeing most guys running around with much larger trucks and much larger trailers. I guess the state DOT site is the best spot to look into a Class A?

[nedly05]

Go to your local DMV, get the CDL permit book, study up for your permit, then after you have the road skills down, go for the road test.

[Mighty Moe]

The state NY Sate DOT is one thing,I sweat the local town or cities DOT!It's a game on how many truck's they can get it before noon break.I know from a sertan town here (with a famus horse race track)S.S.NY and these guy's have no clue on what the hheck there looking at when they look at my T800.They have to read book's on the law's before they write the ticket there so dumb.Ive seen so many truck's that I know personaly that should be shut down pull in and get waved threw as I site and get my ball's broke.It's all about the $$$.If you were headed to his house with that hoe with your 10 ply tire's it would of been fine!!