Breaker or Packer?

[Idigmywork]

Want to purchase a hydralic concrete breaker for a 12-15 thousand pound excavater. But I also need a compacter...
Why dont they make a breaker/packer combo unit? Can't the point be switched over to a plate of some sort?? :beatsme
Anyone have any thoughts? Thank you

[Turbo21835]

Ive seen one like that around these parts. The outfit added to the bottom of their point. They used a flat point, then added progressively larger round pads welded together. I dont think it would work very well though. As a compactor tends to be on a high vibration frequency where as a hammer seems to be a quick heavy blow. Thats why you get a high speed thump thump thump out of a packer vs a slow solid TAP TAP TAP out of a hammer.

[ror76a]

I would say if you need a packer, by a packer. I would believe that the breaker would do both, but probaly not nearly as good at compacting as a packer would be. This has reminded me about packers and sheet piling, but I will start another thread on that.

[Tacodriver]

A few companies make tampers for hammers. Here is onehttp://www.xygon.com/tamper.html We have one similar that we use with a breaker on our mini hoe. It works very well for compacting trench lines way better then a jumping jack.

[stumper120]

i dont know what those compactors run but i bet they are alot less than a hammer. my tramac cost $20.000 new and cost $5,000 to overhaul the bushings ,housing ,accumulator exetra. if im running the hammer it better be getting $2,200 a day .

[Dozerboy]

I have use them in the past we called them "Stanley's" I don't know if that was there name or a generic term. They did good getting compaction, but it was a little slow.

[Bucket Man]

Kent Demolition Tools offers hopacs and breakers. Your not gonna get Bargain Basement prices,but you will get an outstanding tool..I can supply info if you need some

[Breakerman]

Want to purchase a hydralic concrete breaker for a 12-15 thousand pound excavater. But I also need a compacter...
Why dont they make a breaker/packer combo unit? Can't the point be switched over to a plate of some sort?? :beatsme
Anyone have any thoughts? Thank you
Breaker - Packer - Bucket, all in one!

It's called the Breaker-Bucket.

Will be available soon at your NPK Authorized Dealer... in Iowa... See with Martin Equipment (John Deere) or Road Machinery & Supplies Co (Komatsu) or you can visit this website: www.picbucket.ca (http://www.picbucket.ca)this website is complete with video clips of the Breaker-Bucket Technology. You can also go to www.npkce.com (http://www.npkce.com) , they also have some info on their website. Have fun!

[dirthog]

It would be hard to make one that does both well as the each work different the hammer uses straight force downward to brake rock while the compactor uses a excentric shaft to vibrate and the weight of the machine to compact the soil the compactor also uses a lot higher frequence to vibrate

[Breakerman]

It would be hard to make one that does both well as the each work different the hammer uses straight force downward to brake rock while the compactor uses a excentric shaft to vibrate and the weight of the machine to compact the soil the compactor also uses a lot higher frequence to vibrate

:usa
Well, you can see it for yourself, in your area, this Breaker-Bucket will be available under the NPK Breaker-Bucket Brand at: Highway Equipment & Supply Company
http://www.hwyequip.com/ (http://www.hwyequip.com)

See how the concept works at this address: http://www.powertechci.com/concept.htm

Have fun!

:scool

[dirthog]

didn't say one could not be made just that a 99% of the compactors work with eccentrics and they do that for a reason that is the most effective way to compact earth ! A hammer uses straight up and down motion by a piston to brake rock of whatever your bucket is made the same way except that there are 3-4 smaller pistons and points depending on the size of the bucket. They do not hit with the same frequency and vibration as a tamper will it compact yes in some cases harder that a tamper but also much slower rate. If you check Allied Construction Equip web site and look at the difference in the in blows per min you will see what I mean and all hammers work on the same principle.

[S. exc]

I've never used an excavator mounted packer and wonder how well they work. I need to backfill basements from demo'ed houses.

[Countryboy]

Welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums S. exc! :drinkup

[AtlasRob]

Want to purchase a hydralic concrete breaker for a 12-15 thousand pound excavater. But I also need a compacter...
Why dont they make a breaker/packer combo unit? Can't the point be switched over to a plate of some sort?? :beatsme
Anyone have any thoughts? Thank you

Have you thought about a wheel. I know some of the drainage boys on here use them to compact thier backfill in trenches. I would expect them to be cheaper than a vibrating plate. :my2c