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KMSEXC
11-20-2007, 10:21 PM
We need a mechanic's list where are the mechanics

wrenchbender
11-21-2007, 10:50 PM
"We need a mechanic's list where are the mechanics"


We's gittin ready fer turkey & dressing us canics like that stuff ya know. I'm a self taught one but if I can answer your questions or help ya I'm willing to give it a shot.

KMSEXC
11-22-2007, 06:45 AM
"We need a mechanic's list where are the mechanics"


We's gittin ready fer turkey & dressing us canics like that stuff ya know. I'm a self taught one but if I can answer your questions or help ya I'm willing to give it a shot.

no mechanics Here I guess , I need some answers on equipment repairs but nobody on this forum answers back to any question I have

wrenchbender
11-22-2007, 08:10 AM
If you post your question I'm sure if I can't answer it someone here can. There is a wealth of knowledge on this site. There are some real mechanics (the ones that went to school for it) here I've just been working on equipment for a little over 35 years ( no schooling & very few manuals). So what do you need to know?

KMSEXC
11-22-2007, 10:52 AM
If you post your question I'm sure if I can't answer it someone here can. There is a wealth of knowledge on this site. There are some real mechanics (the ones that went to school for it) here I've just been working on equipment for a little over 35 years ( no schooling & very few manuals). So what do you need to know?

My question is in the loader section about 320 konmatsu payloader trany problem check it out, I would appreicated if you can help Thank you KMS

Diggerodell
11-22-2007, 03:20 PM
I didn't join here to claim to be a mechanic but I have spent a good portion of my life making my living with wrenches! I'm retired now and back home operating the family cattle ranch. I bought a project Austin-Western Super 300 motor grader and have put a lot of TLC back into this project. It is up and operating and doing a great job but let me tell you that there have been a lot of so called mechanics leave their shoddy work behind on this baby. I just joined up and really enjoy the Forums, what valuable information. I fixed heavy equipment much of my life but hardly moved anything into the shop so I'm really good at operating for 15 minutes and creating a mess that takes 2 hours to straighten out by a seasoned operator. You operators keep the info coming because I'm really reading it.

wrenchbender
11-22-2007, 05:28 PM
Welcome to HEF Diggerodell I see that we're the same type operators.

KMSEXC
11-22-2007, 05:33 PM
Welcome to HEF Diggerodell I see that we're the same type operators.

What do ya Mean

Countryboy
11-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums Diggerodell! :drinkup

02Dmax
12-16-2007, 08:12 PM
did I hear a "calling all mechanics"? Hi, my name's Sean and I'm a heavy equipment field technician. I work for a mid-size earthmoving company in the K.C. MO area. Daily I work on Fiat, New Holland Dozers, heavy trucks, CAT 621's and some various JCB stuff. I'll help out anyway I can and I'm here to learn

KMSEXC
12-16-2007, 08:22 PM
did I hear a "calling all mechanics"? Hi, my name's Sean and I'm a heavy equipment field technician. I work for a mid-size earthmoving company in the K.C. MO area. Daily I work on Fiat, New Holland Dozers, heavy trucks, CAT 621's and some various JCB stuff. I'll help out anyway I can and I'm here to learn

saw you message just got online , this forum needs to add a mechanis list for mechanics exspertise , anyway just got in from plowing thankyou for the reply oh by the way i was changing the oil in my komatsu 320 payloader and noticed anti freeze coming out of the head gasket my buddy says to run it because of some problems ill run into when i start fixing it , its a cumming motor

02Dmax
12-16-2007, 09:01 PM
Is it the 5.9 liter engine? Those are notorious for external leaking.

KMSEXC
12-17-2007, 06:07 PM
Is it the 5.9 liter engine? Those are notorious for external leaking.

what am i looking at as far as replacing head gasket do you think ill run into more trouble

John C.
12-17-2007, 08:16 PM
I've had lots of problems on those engines over the years in equipment, but I've never seen a leaking head gasket.

It's not a hard job to do but I would be sending that head into a machine shop to check it for being flat. The only way I could think of for it to leak is because its been overheated and warped or cracked.

You might have to get the top end gasket kit from Komatsu. Cummins usually will not have the numbers on that engine and you will take your chances on warranty issues if something goes wrong. Also make sure you clean out all head bolt holes with a tap and blow them out with air pressure. Make sure you get all new head bolts.

Good Luck!

KMSEXC
12-17-2007, 08:28 PM
I've had lots of problems on those engines over the years in equipment, but I've never seen a leaking head gasket.

It's not a hard job to do but I would be sending that head into a machine shop to check it for being flat. The only way I could think of for it to leak is because its been overheated and warped or cracked.

You might have to get the top end gasket kit from Komatsu. Cummins usually will not have the numbers on that engine and you will take your chances on warranty issues if something goes wrong. Also make sure you clean out all head bolt holes with a tap and blow them out with air pressure. Make sure you get all new head bolts.

Good Luck!

Thank you for the knowledge its a small leak so im going to wait until after snow plowing Thanks Again

angelsairman
03-04-2008, 05:10 PM
I work at a JCB dealership as a mechanic, I also did fleet maintenance for a specialty contractor on everything from small engines to advanced recycling machines. Before that I was in the USAF from 00-05 as an AGE ranger (ageranger.com), a jack of all trades master of none. Sign me up for the mechanic list, as I know this will also be an invaluable resource for me as well.:usa

Per Eriksson
03-05-2008, 02:36 PM
Tech at the Swedish CAT dealer.

superwrench0166
03-06-2008, 07:28 PM
Just keep it full of antifreeze and water. Not all that difficult we have 4 WA320 loaders and only one did this. Big thing with that motor is make sure you clean and retap the headbolt holes you want to make sure they are perfectly clean before you set the head on. very famous for causing cracks in the block exspecially the two end bolts.

Countryboy
03-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums superwrench0166! :drinkup

KMSEXC
03-07-2008, 06:30 PM
Just keep it full of antifreeze and water. Not all that difficult we have 4 WA320 loaders and only one did this. Big thing with that motor is make sure you clean and retap the headbolt holes you want to make sure they are perfectly clean before you set the head on. very famous for causing cracks in the block exspecially the two end bolts.

Hey super wrench i have many questions concerning my 320 loader mabe you can help, First my 320 after warm up shifts slow from forward to reverse have you had any slow shifting with yours

KMSEXC
03-07-2008, 06:32 PM
I work at a JCB dealership as a mechanic, I also did fleet maintenance for a specialty contractor on everything from small engines to advanced recycling machines. Before that I was in the USAF from 00-05 as an AGE ranger (ageranger.com), a jack of all trades master of none. Sign me up for the mechanic list, as I know this will also be an invaluable resource for me as well.:usa

what do you guys know about painting equipment I am starting the cleaning process , by power washing then im trying to get paint #s tough to match paint any ideas to get the correct colors its a linkbelt

superwrench0166
03-08-2008, 11:50 AM
i have found if its a slow shift from fwd to reverse after warm up thats the first signs of clutch packs getting wear on them. when the oil is cold fills up the space faster but once warm fluid thins out takes longer to fill and activate the clutch packs. you usuallly find this on the fwd reverse clutch packs before any other. the bad part of this deal is. the whole cab has to come off to get the transmission out. You have the choice get it fixed as soon as the time allows or wait till it starts slipping and maybe costing you even more money. your probably looking at total reseal of compelete transmission and set of clutches for fwd and reverse.

KMSEXC
03-08-2008, 12:00 PM
i have found if its a slow shift from fwd to reverse after warm up thats the first signs of clutch packs getting wear on them. when the oil is cold fills up the space faster but once warm fluid thins out takes longer to fill and activate the clutch packs. you usuallly find this on the fwd reverse clutch packs before any other. the bad part of this deal is. the whole cab has to come off to get the transmission out. You have the choice get it fixed as soon as the time allows or wait till it starts slipping and maybe costing you even more money. your probably looking at total reseal of compelete transmission and set of clutches for fwd and reverse.

How much time do you think i good get out of it , how much cost for repairs , Thank you for your Knowlegde KMSEXC

superwrench0166
03-08-2008, 07:55 PM
i could not gauge time left without knowing the operator and the machines workload. this usually deteriorates faster as time goes by. price i am not good at i just a head mechanic for a private contractor here. i would say a couple thousand in parts labor will eat you up as much if not more.

KMSEXC
03-08-2008, 08:12 PM
i could not gauge time left without knowing the operator and the machines workload. this usually deteriorates faster as time goes by. price i am not good at i just a head mechanic for a private contractor here. i would say a couple thousand in parts labor will eat you up as much if not more.

Thanks for the help I think ill wait until it stops then make my decision on what to do with i,t machine is in decent shape ill just have to go easy on it make it last

superwrench0166
03-08-2008, 08:14 PM
if you havent allready service the trans make sure you use trans oil cut open the filter and check the strainer.

KMSEXC
03-08-2008, 08:17 PM
i could not gauge time left without knowing the operator and the machines workload. this usually deteriorates faster as time goes by. price i am not good at i just a head mechanic for a private contractor here. i would say a couple thousand in parts labor will eat you up as much if not more.

what am i looking for , I Noticed the oil getting milky in color i change oil every year

superwrench0166
03-08-2008, 08:19 PM
milky is usually from water mixing other wise its getting air in it. i would probably be more inclined to bet its a water issue. just unusual.

KMSEXC
03-08-2008, 08:23 PM
if you havent allready service the trans make sure you use trans oil cut open the filter and check the strainer.

Ya thats what i was thinking but how is water getting in i think maybe air could be problem maybe ill take oil sample take it to get analyzed

superwrench0166
03-12-2008, 07:28 PM
check make sure someone hasnt accidently poured some in a bucked laying out sometimes water will get in oil. i have seen a plugged vent also cause that in cold doesnt build up enough pressure to blow anything but will cause alot of condensation. and that could be all it is condensation not getting hot enough to cook it off. worse is the radiator to cooler is leaking but usually the oil will transfer to the water there.

KMSEXC
03-12-2008, 07:56 PM
check make sure someone hasnt accidently poured some in a bucked laying out sometimes water will get in oil. i have seen a plugged vent also cause that in cold doesnt build up enough pressure to blow anything but will cause alot of condensation. and that could be all it is condensation not getting hot enough to cook it off. worse is the radiator to cooler is leaking but usually the oil will transfer to the water there.

Thanks super wrench for your input ill look into it some more hopfully its minor athough i think its going to be big job where would you start

superwrench0166
03-15-2008, 10:22 AM
is it getting worse. i would get me some thing to drain into after it has sat for some time. when you pull the plug the water should come out first. i would try draining as much of the water out as possible. that will tell you if it is for sure water or air. are you having to add coolant.

KMSEXC
03-15-2008, 11:58 AM
is it getting worse. i would get me some thing to drain into after it has sat for some time. when you pull the plug the water should come out first. i would try draining as much of the water out as possible. that will tell you if it is for sure water or air. are you having to add coolant.

Not getting worse at the moment , Ive change oil three months ago didnt see any water at first when draining , how would air cause it to turn milky color , know as im writing it looks more like an air mixture than water

superwrench0166
03-15-2008, 12:04 PM
if your transmission pump is going bad. it will start to draw air and mix it with the oil. you end up with a frothy mixture almost like oil and water mixed. it will settle out after sitting. difference is if you drain some out after it settles you will get pure oil right from the start if its water oil mixed you will get water first.

KMSEXC
03-15-2008, 01:09 PM
if your transmission pump is going bad. it will start to draw air and mix it with the oil. you end up with a frothy mixture almost like oil and water mixed. it will settle out after sitting. difference is if you drain some out after it settles you will get pure oil right from the start if its water oil mixed you will get water first.

Can i get to pump with out removing cab, How Big is this job , Thanks much appreciated

superwrench0166
03-15-2008, 01:10 PM
yes you can get to the pump lil bit difficult. first you have to be sure thats what it is.

KMSEXC
03-15-2008, 01:16 PM
Can i get to pump with out removing cab, How Big is this job , Thanks much appreciated

i don't think its water more like air But machine doesn't slip when engaged its has good power theres just that pause when shifting from forward to reverse doesn't start doing this until warmed up how would pump effect this or air

superwrench0166
03-15-2008, 05:08 PM
you need to check if its milky before you start it after sitting. if it is aireating the fluid then yes that could possibly cause some of yoru problems just like air in brakes makes it squishy. lol and yes i know i cant spell well. english never my good subject.

KMSEXC
03-15-2008, 05:16 PM
you need to check if its milky before you start it after sitting. if it is aireating the fluid then yes that could possibly cause some of yoru problems just like air in brakes makes it squishy. lol and yes i know i cant spell well. english never my good subject.

I'm an operator slash laborer slash mechanic slash owner i don't have the time to practice my spelling also but thank you very much go to the abc on the upper right hand corner for spelling corrections KMSEXC

superwrench0166
03-15-2008, 05:26 PM
lol ok i think at this point before i take you in a wrong direction telling you to pull or not pull the pump. i think i want to look in the manual make sure i am remembering that system corectly. i work on so many diff brand and models sometimes i can get crossed up. If we dont find any decent help here soon i may need to find me a new body.

KMSEXC
03-15-2008, 05:42 PM
lol ok i think at this point before i take you in a wrong direction telling you to pull or not pull the pump. i think i want to look in the manual make sure i am remembering that system corectly. i work on so many diff brand and models sometimes i can get crossed up. If we dont find any decent help here soon i may need to find me a new body.

I'm not doing anything to the trany yet were still in the thirty's up here and still getting snow but i have some leads to pursue i think your on the right track with the air question is how its happening ill wait for your reply no hurry KMSEXC Thats deffinetly happening air mixing its not real milky like water mixture and you can almost see the air bubbles

superwrench0166
03-17-2008, 08:15 PM
ok you first must check the suction line oring on bottom and top. of course prolly not the bottom if you dont have a leak. also check the hose that conects the pipes make sure the clamps are tight. if all that checks. going to be pointing at the transmission pump. how many hrs on this machine. just with way you keep it up unusual for this to happen.

KMSEXC
03-17-2008, 08:38 PM
ok you first must check the suction line oring on bottom and top. of course prolly not the bottom if you dont have a leak. also check the hose that conects the pipes make sure the clamps are tight. if all that checks. going to be pointing at the transmission pump. how many hrs on this machine. just with way you keep it up unusual for this to happen.

I brought this loader used , The machine was probaly not ran with the care I would have Taken of it but over all machine is not totaly slapped Machine has 9000 Hrs on her 1998 is the year she starts great and i never have any problem with machine just this forward reverse deal, Im going in am to check oil first before and after i run machine to see if oil changes from running and not running Where are the lines located that your talking about external or internal Thanks KMSEXC

superwrench0166
03-18-2008, 06:02 AM
lines are external. on engine side. behind the lowest end is the suction screen. should be on the left side of machine as if you were sitting in the cab.
looking more like pump is going bad. most of theese pumps are aluminum housing and usually have no mercy. if ever ran dry will rapidly wear.

KMSEXC
03-18-2008, 08:03 AM
lines are external. on engine side. behind the lowest end is the suction screen. should be on the left side of machine as if you were sitting in the cab.
looking more like pump is going bad. most of theese pumps are aluminum housing and usually have no mercy. if ever ran dry will rapidly wear.

Sounds like the problem I will check lines and oil today trany should come out and get rebuilt, I will just have to spend money thats all I appreciate all the knowledge and help trying to figure this out Thanks again if i find out anything i will let you know it might be a while since i might wait until she doesn't move any more that could take some time Thanks Again KMSEXC

KMSEXC
03-18-2008, 03:48 PM
lines are external. on engine side. behind the lowest end is the suction screen. should be on the left side of machine as if you were sitting in the cab.
looking more like pump is going bad. most of theese pumps are aluminum housing and usually have no mercy. if ever ran dry will rapidly wear.

I want to thank you again for hanging in with me, Today went to machine and checked trany oil , oil was fine no unusual signs so i started machine let it warm up and took it for a ride to let oil and tranny warm up At first no problems shifting from forward to reverse but ran it some more and then it started again hesitating , so i parked machine still running and checked tranny oil and then i saw the bubbles in oil and oil was frothy looking so i said i think were getting some where so I called dealer and he said change sump screen , and o rings and hose some times they can draw air , he also said that could be why its hesitating So thanks again I'm 90 percent sure this is problem PS I hated to keep bothering you so i called the dealer i been working with them on this for awhile but we never talked about air so thanks again KMSEXC

superwrench0166
03-18-2008, 07:52 PM
i just like to see you get it fixed and cheaply as possible i dont like to change things or spend money without being sure.

KMSEXC
03-18-2008, 08:02 PM
i just like to see you get it fixed and cheaply as possible i dont like to change things or spend money without being sure.

You saved me alot ,Alot of stress and money, much appreciated KMSEXC

Mr Gears
04-27-2008, 03:56 AM
Sorry to hijack this topic, but it's kind of related.
I am an Motor Mechanic interested in re-training as a Plant Mechanic. I would like to work in the SE Qld region. If anyone can point me in the direction of a workshop that might be able to give me a start. Also is there any company that I might need to steer clear of? I am a real newb when it comes to heavy vehicles but I am a fast learner. I have had some Unimog experience and found it fascinating. Driveline repairs has been my specialty for around 15yrs.
Thanks. You can contact me at: brettprociv@hotmail.com

DenMech
05-20-2008, 09:05 AM
I am an auto and truck and coach mechanic trying to get certified as a heavy duty equipment tech. any others out there.

rapper
10-08-2008, 05:45 AM
hey guys. im a 2nd year apprentice plant mechanic from australia. just wanted to know about job vacancies or demand for diesal mechanics in other countries.

CatManDoes
10-05-2009, 08:34 AM
nice...:)I've had lots of problems on those engines over the years in equipment, but I've never seen a leaking head gasket.

It's not a hard job to do but I would be sending that head into a machine shop to check it for being flat. The only way I could think of for it to leak is because its been overheated and warped or cracked.

You might have to get the top end gasket kit from Komatsu. Cummins usually will not have the numbers on that engine and you will take your chances on warranty issues if something goes wrong. Also make sure you clean out all head bolt holes with a tap and blow them out with air pressure. Make sure you get all new head bolts.

Good Luck!

OFF
10-05-2009, 12:24 PM
Hi, I'm a new member and a mechanic. Licenced/certified in both automotive and heavy equipment. 34 years in the trade.
I've spent my life working on Ford trucks, JLG & Genie boom lifts, forklifts, stationary diesels, hydraulic cranes, etc. Not much dirt equipment, but pretty much everything else from small engines to locomotives. Also did a 5 year stint in an engine rebuilding/machine shop.
I love to help & share anything I've learned along the way. :)

Dave

MrKomatsu
10-05-2009, 05:56 PM
KMSEXC........E-mail me with your ???????????? i"m sure we can get you fixed up......

Ross
10-05-2009, 06:31 PM
Yeah Iam a Time-Served .. Fully indentured Plant Fitter.

Also Have Inter-provincial - Red-Seal - Heavy Duty Equipment Mechanic ticket from my time in Canada :canada :cool:

Drifter
10-31-2009, 11:05 PM
Hello,

Journeymen heavy equipment mechanic here. I run a field truck an work on John Deere Construction and Forestry equipment. Any Deere equipment questions just ask.

ATCOEQUIP
10-31-2009, 11:12 PM
Hello,

Journeymen heavy equipment mechanic here. I run a field truck an work on John Deere Construction and Forestry equipment. Any Deere equipment questions just ask.

Welcome to the forum Drifter. :usa

Yeah, we need a Deere road tech here on the forum, so you better get ready for some excavator questions. :D

-3Doc is a good Hitachi tech, and Deere machines are pretty much the same as a 'tachi, but it would be nice to have another Deere tech among us. ;)

LonestarCobra
11-04-2009, 07:49 PM
Dang, this threads been dead for a year now. I put in 16 years at a Cat dealer as a field service mechanic. (I hate the word "technician" seems to take all the nuts and bolts out of the job) Anyway I went back to the oilfield a few years ago but cant seem to leave the yellow equipment alone for some reason.

Hardline
11-29-2009, 05:09 PM
Hello, I'm a mechanic from the Dallas Ft Worth Texas area. Work on a lot of skid steers and forklifts mainly. I'll try to help any time I can. JJ

AK HDM
11-29-2009, 08:02 PM
Hello, I'm a semi-retired heavy equipment mechanic/electrician with over 38 years experience working on logging equip.[early years], road construction equip., pipeline equip., trucks,generators[1.5kw to 900kw.]& small equipment.
Also I am a 33 year member of local 302, International Union of Operating Engineers