MDI YUTANI Hoe

[IC1]

Anyone have any experiences with these machines. Looking at buying a used one with 4800 hours. MD180 model. Seems to run really well and is in pretty good shape. The undercarriage is all new.

Thanks --

[donlang]

If I recall correctly, MDI Yutani is (or was) a subsidiary of Koby Steel. Koby Steel now produces Kobelco. Although the machine
is probably a very good one, it may be difficult to get parts for. To my knowledge, Yutani is no longer in production.

If anyone has better information, I would welcome being corrected...........49 and gaining, sometimes one doesn't remember quite as well...........or maybe it's just that there is more on my mind now...

:usa

[Steve Frazier]

That's a brand I've never heard of. Funny how you see so many obscure brands of compact excavators.

[glsahl]

We've got '94 Kobelco model SK200LC mark4,getting parts for it is a nightmare.Dealership has changed hands 4 times since we bought it.Hasn't been a single part,in stock,locally,for 6 or7 years.Everything has come out of Salt Lake City,UT,or Japan.Waited almost 3 weeks for a set of lines for cab pilot controls.By the time I got them,I had already replace individual lines via local hose shop. Original lines were Synflex,and didn't hold up under our air temps,wanted to replaced all at once,since extensive tear down of cab is required.
Having same problem with parts for our oldest Linkbelt 3400 c2.At least dealer is stable,and just aquired Kobelco line.

[IC1]

We bought the machine and it seems to be really strong so far. Local mechanic said the parts are the same as CAT. I hope when we finnally need something it's easy to come by.

[JIM VILARDI]

HERE'S A LITTLE HISTORY FOR ALL.

MITSUBISHI ENTERED THE U.S. IN THE EARLY 80'S WITH A FULL LINE OF EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING: DOZERS, LOADERS, GRADERS, AND EXCAVATORS. AROUND 1988 CAT MERGED WITH THE EXCAVATOR LINE ONLY. YUTANI WAS THEN BORN BY MITSUBISHI.

THE YUTANI WAS A KOBELCO, SAME MACHINE ONLY DIFFERENT MARKINGS. THEY EVEN USE THE SAME PART NUMBERING SYSTEM.
YES, PARTS ARE TOUGH TO GET, BUT NOT AS TOUGH AS TRYING TO GET THE OLD MITSUBISHI PARTS THROUGH CAT.

BOTTOM LINE IS; BUY A KOMATSU OR CAT IF YOU WANT GOOD PARTS AVAILABILITY AND RESALE VALUE. NOT THAT OTHER MACHINES WON'T SERVICE YOU WELL, BUT THEY ARE USUALLY HARD ON PARTS AVAILABILITY AND LOWER RESALE VALUE.

[MR. KOBELCO]

MDI YUTANI was a joint venture of Kobelco & Mitsubishi.
when mitsi had got out of the excavator market the same machine with slight changes in the counterweight and undercarriage and hydraulic tubing were made. the excavators in that same week were exiting the factory painted as kobelco machines. a few with counterweight lights and some none.
When ordering parts you would need the model and serial number and a simple question to be asked,...does your counterweight have swing flasher lights on the sides?
If the machine has counterweight lights it is simply a kobelco.
If not it is a MDI Yutani.
MDI YUTANI MD140BLC ~ KOBELCO K905LC II
MDI YUTANI MD200BLC ~ KOBELCO K907LC II
MDI YUTANI MD240BLC ~ KOBELCO K909LC II
MDI YUTANI MD320BLC ~ KOBELCO K912LC II
MDI YUTANI MD450BLC ~ KOBELCO K916LC II
the one problem that i am aware of is that the newer Kobelco dealers are not fully aware of past machines or the details surrounding them. They may not know how to support them both technically or know that they are able to stock the everyday parts.
If you have a MDI Yutani the parts given with a proper part number can be simply ordered from an authorized kobelco dealership.
If the dealership has never sold a Yutani they would not have any parts manual for your machine. You can have them order a parts manual on your behalf matching the serial number of your machine ( you would have to pay for the manual ).
I do not completely understand as to why many are experiencing difficulty with obtaining support for both MDI Yutani and Kobelco hydraulic excavators.
I am the Parts and Service mgr. for a long time kobelco dealer in Canada.
If i can be of assistance please do not hesitate to e-mail me for any questions.
I do have first hand experience in troubleshooting problems, repairing machines, the machine computers, giving advice over the phone, etc...
I'm sure we could even help with obtaining parts and manauls if your local dealer cannot.
As a dealership we have sold, since day 1 under Yutani and then into Kobelco models up to date. Today we stock quite a few parts to cover all models. We probably even have the largest stocked parts as a dealer in North America. If necessary we know where to go after market as well.
I can pretty much say that i know the machines in and out.
e-mail: hf_hydraulics@hotmail.com

[drag1line]

Pretty close Mr. Kobelco.
Mitsubishi is one of the largest companies in the world with MANY divisions.
The construction machinery was made by MHI or Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and imported to the US via a trading company, Mitsubishi Corporation who owned Mitsubishi Distribution Inc, or MDI.
When Cat finally decided that they could not keep the 200 series running, the expanded their interest in MHI construction and took over the Akashi facotry, where the Mitsubishi excavators were made, put Cat engines in the machines and went on.
This left MDI with no major products and a lot of dealers, who would not be happy to lose their main line.
MC reached an agreement with Kobe steel, who was already in the US as Kobelco and Japan as Kobelco/Yutani...another story...to produce a line of excavators and was named MDI/Yutani. This was then offered to the former Mitsubishi dealers. While the machines were basically the same, there were performance differences due to MDI specificaitons that more correctly met the US market, such as walk and lift, Long Under carriages and more,
I digress, your machine is an MD 180 LC, the similar and VERY close model of Kobelco is the SK907DLC. Any Kobelco dealer should be able to help you.
Good Luck

[dirthog]

Mr Kobelco has it right we have been a Kobelco dealer for a long time and any dealer that has the PAL system for parts from Kobelco also has the Yutaini parts pages they are all on the same disc and 95% of the parts the same and in stock at the factory we have very little trouble with parts from Kobelco

[excavator]

If I am not mistaken, New Holland took over the Kobelco parts system some time back and since then Kobelco parts are much easier to get. All the parts catalogs are on-line at www.kobelcoamerica.com. Click on "parts catalog", then "click here to get started". Type in the model number and it's all there including the MDI/Yutani models.(I've never tried the gray market helicopter cab models.)

[stumper120]

im exited to see this thread going again, its pretty old. I have a 88 yutani md120lc and often worry about getting parts every time i go to the local kobelco dealer the kid doesent know what im talking about and has to get the old timer from the back. ill tell you for an older machine that machine will out cycle a late model cat 312. its fast and the mitsubishi motor sipps fuel.:usa

[stock]

Well over here Fiat~hiatchi were an item and sold as FH--- and ford backhoe sold as hiatchi in japan ,then a row devloped and fiat got in with kobelco after amalgating with ford and sold as FK___,THEN NEW HOLLAND was setup and the color changed some more hookups included Case who teamed up with Summitomo after they fellout with JCB ETC ETC

[AtlasRob]

im exited to see this thread going again, its pretty old. .:usa

I never even noticed the date until you mentioned it. :cool2 :D

[tootalltimmy]

I went to look at an MDI Yutani that has had a rough life. The center pin is broken on the swing. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanics or how the pin would be replaced. The swing bearing is split apart and the counterweight is balanced on the wood laid across the tracks. I could pick it up for less than $10000 but I don't know enough about the repairs or the cost. I think it will be leave it where it lies.

[drag1line]

Center pin??? Someone is showing their age...That went out with Draglines!....Just don't ask ME how I know that!!
Perhaps the swing rack broke a tooth and broke the swing shaft? Or just broke the swing rack.
In your location, you might call Feenaughty machinery down in Portland Oregon for a take off if you have some interest.
That is also a Kobelco 905 Mark II.
Good Luck

[glsahl]

just looked at k905lc,and md180,parts pics on kobelcoamerica.com.looks like a standard swing bearing set up.lot of work for a used machine.only time i've had to stabilize a machine ,in this manner,was a linkbelt 3400c2. had a guy using it for compaction,24" compaction wheel , instead of a bucket.operator thought having the tracks 6' off the ground would give better compaction,he managed to tear the swing bearing from the top of the carbody.local dealer has pics up on their wall,still.linkbelt sent people from lexington,just to see it.
i'd say,let gather somemore weeds,$10k might not be such a good price.

[drag1line]

It is a standard swing bearing set up, but the MD 180 was the K 907DLC. The 905 was the MD 120.
Will keep my eyes open in case I see a "deal" on bearing.
Good Luck

[AtlasRob]

I went to look at an MDI Yutani that has had a rough life. The center pin is broken on the swing. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanics or how the pin would be replaced. The swing bearing is split apart and the counterweight is balanced on the wood laid across the tracks. I could pick it up for less than $10000 but I don't know enough about the repairs or the cost. I think it will be leave it where it lies.

Probably a very good idea if you have no experience of repairing a slew ring.

Probably a good idea if you DO have experience of replacing a slew ring :D

IF, the rest isn't in too bad a shape, engine and hyd operate, undercarriage is good and access isnt as bad as it looks like it might well be and you have another machine and you have some spanner juggling experience and it isnt too far from home :D it might be worth a little more investigation :rolleyes:

[qkoop]

I went to look at an MDI Yutani that has had a rough life. The center pin is broken on the swing. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanics or how the pin would be replaced. The swing bearing is split apart and the counterweight is balanced on the wood laid across the tracks. I could pick it up for less than $10000 but I don't know enough about the repairs or the cost. I think it will be leave it where it lies.

How many hours are on it? Is it a 140b? They are a great little machine, easy on fuel, no problems getting parts from kobelco.:drinkupI would guess the bearing table came apart,i have never seen that before.If it was cheap enough i would buy it for parts.I have a 140 c that has the same drives.