Backhoe truck

[ricjus001]

I found this relic driving in Southern Maine. I am new to the forum and have always been wondering if this is a custom bild or a standard option. I fogured this was a goo place to ask.
Justin

[RonG]

Years ago the Hopto company made backhoes to be mounted on your choice of carrier but from what I can see of it the backhoe part looks almost too new to be an Hopto.That John Deere paint may be throwing me off here too.
There are others here that might recognise it right away.
Hopto was a product of Warner Swasey who is famous for the Gradall among other things.I hope you can get some closer pics next time through as I am curious now too.That B 67 is still in pretty good shape too,bet it still runs.Ron G

[digger242j]

I can't say for sure, but it probably depends somewhat on how you define "custom build". I'm sure Mack didn't deliver it from the factory that way, but an upfitter might have added similar setups to a number of chassis.

Around here, the gas company used to run some F-600 (?) Fords with a similar setup, and I'm sure they had more than one....

[Countryboy]

Welcome to HEF ricjus001! :drinkup

[ricjus001]

I cant say when I will be back down that way. I am not an expert in this area, casual equipment user may be more fitting. I do agree the attachment does look newer than the truck it is on.
As for custom; my bigger question is/was this something that one could buy aftermarket (i.e a plow attachment)? or is the hoe something along the lines of what Ron G mentioned as to the Hopto offered?
I gather I will need better pics of the "truckhoe" with more attention to the hoe itself for a more definative verdict. For anyone in the Kittery, ME, USA area, it is located off US Rt. 1 in plain sight and has been at two different locales over the last 3 years.
Being a casual user, I had never seen such an item and was drwan to it for some strange reason. I appreciate any responses from the HEF people(s) and will continue to check things out, epecially whereas I am contemplating a business that will involve research through the HEF.
Justin

[Countryboy]

I appreciate any responses from the HEF people(s) and will continue to check things out, epecially whereas I am contemplating a business that will involve research through the HEF.
Justin

Just don't take any advice from Squizzy. He calls his equipment funny names and can't keep up with his tools. :rolleyes: :D

[dayexco]

it appears to be "tree is in the road to make final determination".......a hopto 200. my dad wore out about 3 of them. they were made in winona, minnesota. BTW...hopto stands for "hydraulicly operated power take off"

[srs_mn]

It's hard to tell from the picture, but I think that's a John Deere backhoe - probably a demountable one off a crawler tractor. Too bad that tree is in the way.
srs/mn

[Squizzy246B]

Just don't take any advice from Squizzy. He calls his equipment funny names and can't keep up with his tools. :rolleyes: :D

That hoe on the back is not for digging....its the only reliable way of propelling a Mack:rolleyes: :D (well Digger started it)

[NH TC]

Stumbled across your forum looking for a new motor. My Ford industrial motor cracked and having a heck of a time matching the block. Anyone with Ideas,someone told me a ford ranger might work. I would like this to be reliable again so I need a good fit with power.My only numbers are
b8pd-6006g or b9nn-9425. maybe someone had to do the same with a tractor or old generator?
Let me know TC

[digger242j]

Welcome to the forums!

I don't have any idea what those numbers represent, but way back when (about 1978), I worked for a concrete contractor that owned a couple of Mack mixers. One had a Ford pony motor that powered the mixer. It blew up (with about 8 yards in the drum :rolleyes: ), and if I recall correctly, they replaced it with a 289 out of a Mustang. I mention this only because it demonstrates that there could very well be an automotive type block that fits in the same space as your industrial motor.

[RonG]

We certainly can't tell much about the engine from the pics you provided,maybe an arial photograph would have helped.:)
You didn't say whether it was gas or diesel but those Ford industrial engines were plentiful at one time and they were good engines as well.
If you can find a Ford/Lehman dealer they used to market the Brazilian made Ford engines which is where a lot of them were made and I think you can possibly identify what you have and probably source parts from them if you choose to repair it.Good luck.Here is the Google results I got from my search.Ron G

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&q=ford+lehman+engine

[wrenchbender]

Welcome to HEF NH TC, as stated above can't tell much about the engine from the pics. Is it a 4 cylinder or 6 if it's a 6 cylinder chances are it's a 300 inline six. If this is the csae Ford put these in everything from a F-100 to thier F-350's. If you can get some close up shots of the engine from each side I/others may can help ID it.

[Countryboy]

Welcome to HEF NH TC! :drinkup

[terrain]

Stumbled across your forum looking for a new motor. My Ford industrial motor cracked and having a heck of a time matching the block. Anyone with Ideas,someone told me a ford ranger might work. I would like this to be reliable again so I need a good fit with power.My only numbers are
b8pd-6006g or b9nn-9425. maybe someone had to do the same with a tractor or old generator?
Let me know TC

If it is a four cylinder check out the 172 or the 192 industrial engines. They were also used in Ford tractor in the 6o,s and newer.Were made as gas or diesel. Sometimes the number on the head gasket can be used to ID an engine .They were also used as power units as yours is .

[Countryboy]

Welcome to HEF terrain! :drinkup

[terrain]

Welcome to HEF terrain! :drinkup

thank you

[thebobcatkid86]

Back on the subject of truck mounted backhoes, I can remember having a catalog - may have been Northern Tool or something similar. This was years ago. There was a backhoe that could be mounted in place of the rear bumper of a one-ton or larger pickup truck. I dont remember the specs or how it was powered but I do remember wanting one so badly. If anyone else has any recollection of such a thing or has used one I would love to hear about it. And no it was not one of those "car-towable" backhoes in the back of Popular Mechanics.

[Cat420]

I saw one for sale once mounted on a F-600 that was pretty much a mobile shop. It had tool cabinets and work benches. It would probably make a nice truck for a very specialized purpose, but tough to justify for all around use.

For even more fun, how about one for your Atv. http://www.quadivator.com/other/beaverpro/bpb.htm

[wrenchbender]

For even more fun, how about one for your Atv. http://www.quadivator.com/other/beaverpro/bpb.htm


Well it beats the heck out of a shovel.

[Countryboy]

Back on the subject of truck mounted backhoes, I can remember having a catalog - may have been Northern Tool or something similar. This was years ago. There was a backhoe that could be mounted in place of the rear bumper of a one-ton or larger pickup truck. I dont remember the specs or how it was powered but I do remember wanting one so badly. If anyone else has any recollection of such a thing or has used one I would love to hear about it. And no it was not one of those "car-towable" backhoes in the back of Popular Mechanics.

Here is a thread about some of the smaller ones.

Interestng Little Digger (http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2438&highlight=digger)

[dayexco]

back to ricjus original post. i really think that hoe on the mack is a hopto 200....here is a pic of my dad's 200... http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=972

the boom profile is about identical, can't see much more because of the trees in the road.

[digger242j]

Take a close look and compare it to the JD hoe attachment in this picture. (http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showpost.php?p=35071&postcount=2)

I see the dipper cylinder hose in the same place, and the boss for the upper end of the boom cylinder (which is similarly situated inside the boom on all three hoes), on the side of the boom of the JD. The lettering on the HOPTO might be hiding that, but the HOPTO dipper cylinder looks longer too. I think it might be a JD hoe. We'll probably never find out... :beatsme

[rino]

If I'm not mistaken, these were 4 cyl. gas (Ford) and diesel (Perkins) engines on the 601 to 801 series (farm) tractors and the 2000 Industrial Series! There were a lot of these tractors made and sold because they were cheap, I mean cost effective to own and operate! The 2000 was the Ford rubber tired hoe of the late 50's and 60's. These machines were built on the 8N farm of the farm tractor, and were the Farmall-A/C of the Fords. They could pull a 3 bottom plow, run a cycle bar, pull a hay wagon, drag the disc, tow the manual manure spreader, tow the insecticide tank, or dig the drainage ditch and load a C50-70; F500 to T850D, then backfill the hole! The 1962 - 2000 I had, was equipped with a valve on the Hydraulics that switched from loader to hoe. Nope, couldn't do both, either the loader or the hoe!

[fmccoy63]

I got this a couple months ago. Would very much like to aquire a operators, and a service manual. Any help would be highly appreciated. Oh ya, it is a hopo 300 on a 65 ford 850 superduty. The fellow i bought it from said the truck went straight from ford to warner swasey and it was put on.
Frank:usa
PS I cannot figure out how to shrink my pics to size i have 1600x1200, not very pc literate, if someone might email me how that is done i would post some nice pics of the old girl.

[wrenchbender]

Welcome to HEF fmccoy63,

[Squizzy246B]

PS I cannot figure out how to shrink my pics to size i have 1600x1200, not very pc literate, if someone might email me how that is done i would post some nice pics of the old girl.

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2284

That should help

or these:

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=1521&highlight=jpegcompress

[fmccoy63]

thanks for the help hope these post:usa

[Countryboy]

Welcome to HEF fmccoy63! :drinkup

Thats a well kept rig ya got there. :thumbsup

[NH TC]

just converted to 12 volts and put in a tractor motor,she ready to dig down.

[NH TC]

love old trucks

[Tn Bulldog]

Havent seen a truck mouted backhoe in quite some time my granddad had a buddy who had a brockway w/ a hopto on the back of it it dug quite a few burning pits for us when we didnt have a trackhoe handy ;)


some great pics yall :cool:



Welcome to all the new members in this thred too :drinkup


later yall

Bulldog

[N.B.CONCRETE]

NH TC , time to get her to pay for herself , now....go digging !

[Steve Frazier]

I haven't seen one of these since I was a kid in the 60s, I'd see one every now and then on the road. Con Edison is the last example I've seen of a truck mounted hoe, they had F-350 pickups with a hoe mounted in the bed during the 80s to dig street utilities for repair.

[OneWelder]

There was it least three in my general area {southern N.H. ) when I was growing up. I belive they became obsolete when TLB. became more than just farm tractors with bucKets

[tuney443]

We had a utility contractor by us for years who had one of these.It was used for quick,shallow dig-ups mostly at the world famous Vassar College.It was a Samson hoe which specialized in truck mounted applications.I've actually have seen a few more.

[buckchills]

I live north of the area where this is, but I gotta see this...
C>

[bobcat ron]

Gotta love them old set ups, nothing beats a rubber tired excavator though.........:notworthy

[tw_692000]

thanks for the help hope these post:usa

nice pics .... so thats where my rubber tire ew170 volvo excavator got its start..... looks like you had to watch your tail swing.....

[Tabs]

I am trying to figure out what hopto type this is, i was told in was put on in 58?
Father in law just gave this to us. I know the engine is a straight 6 Contenential Gas, that about all. Any help would be great.
Steve

[Countryboy]

Welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums Tabs! :drinkup

[dayexco]

I am trying to figure out what hopto type this is, i was told in was put on in 58?
Father in law just gave this to us. I know the engine is a straight 6 Contenential Gas, that about all. Any help would be great.
Steve

that's a hopto 200, my dad wore out 3-4 of em....here's a pic of one.
http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=972