Chinese pictures

[CM1995]

I doug up a few construction trucks and equipment pics from my last trip to China over a year ago. This is in my mind because I am going to Tiawan and China in April. This time I will get more pics of construction sites. For the mean time this will have to do.

[CM1995]

And some more-
I don't know what the cooling tower was being built for. The last one is a picture of the border between Honk Kong and China taken from the train we were on. We were on the HK side of the border. The barbed wire on the fence is not to keep people out of China BUT to keep people IN. Kinda creepy.

[CM1995]

Here are a few more. The scaffolding is all bamboo and plastic mesh. The joke is the official bird of China is the tower crane. The food was rather interesting to say the least.

[RonG]

I somehow had it in my mind that you could not take pictures in China.Do you carry the camera openly or do you have to get permission or is there no restrictions or am I 50 years behind the times these days?
I do enjoy them however:))Ron G

[CM1995]

I don't know of any rules against pictures but then again I didn't ask and I wasn't told not to. LOL :rolleyes: I carried my camera openly and even took pictures at the trade show I went to. I know most of the trade shows here in the US won't allow cameras.

The first pic is one in the trade show. The second is a shot of Hong Kong at night. Very fun place to bar hop. The third pic shows the Chinese are not afraid of building their roads up in the air. It's hard to tell from the picture but the building on the right that is level with the road is the third story of the building.

[Blademan]

CM1995 ,

thank you for the facinating photos ,and I look forward to seeing your next batch .
Out of curiosity , are you attending trade shows in China selling a product , or visiting for pleasure ? I have recently become very aware at how the ' sleeping giant is awakening ' , and have very mixed feelings as to what this will mean for our planet . I viewed a video only last night called Manufactored Landscapes ( Got it from Blockbusters ) and was awed by the enormity and scale of China , both it's industry and people . Very interesting documentary , I highly recommend it .
Thanks again for your pictures and am looking forward to seeing more and hearing about your trips .

Rob

[CM1995]

I had the opportunity to go to China with a friend and business partner of mine. We attended 2 trade shows: one electronics show in Hong Kong and a very large multi-product show in China. I have an interest in a lighting company and we went to source engineering and manufacturing for a new product we are developing. Also went for pleasure - couldn't pass it up.:D

My primary business is excavation but it doesn't hurt to be diversified.

China as a country and civilization is quite a sight to see. The best way I can describe it is 1st world jammed right up against 3rd world. Large modern glass sky scrapers are built in the middle of small towns with old masonry 1 story buildings. The streets in the cities are a madhouse. People, bicycles, motorcycles, mopeds, trucks, buses, donkeys - pretty much if you can ride it or use it to pull a wagon you see it. They had these strange 3 wheel tractor/garden tiller looking devices that had a seat and handle bars that they used to pull wagons around with - it was quite a sight and I wish I had pictures of them.

The city in China we stayed at was Guangzhou, which is about an hour train ride from Hong Kong. Traveling in HK and China can be difficult. Fortunately we have contacts in HK that speak very good English and were basically our tour guides. Made the trip alot less intimidating. When you cross the border from HK to China you have the normal customs check but they also scan your body temp. If you have a high temp. then you are not leaving/entering on account of SARS and the bird flu. There is a place you stand and a thermal camera scans your body. Kinda intimidating at first but you get used to it. Even one of the hotels we stayed in had a thermal camera.

Hong Kong is a special government district that has its own government but still controlled by China since Great Britian gave it back years ago. HK residents can go to China fairly easily but Chinese residents cannot easily go to HK. If you are a HK resident then you can obtain a visa to visit other countries. The Chinese on the other hand cannot usually obtain a visa to leave China. One fellow I met named Peter (most HK and Chinese business men all have english first names) who owns a plastics injection molding facility (makes things like rebar safety caps) has been trying to get a visa from the Chinese gov't to go to the US but can't get one. We plan on visiting Peter's factory this trip.

The Hong Kong - Chinese governmental arrangement is very strange and I don't fully understand it all.

I think I will go rent that documentary this evening.

Cory

[Steve Frazier]

The buildings in that first picture look like they are built of Lego blocks! Very peculiar. Interesting photos, thanks!

[rino1494]

What in the hell for dead animal is on your plate ??

[surfer-joe]

The cooling tower is likely for a coal-fired power plant. You see the same style at nuclear plants here, but a nuclear plant would not need a conveyor system to move coal with, which is in the foreground. China is building coal-fired power plants as fast as they can, and buying nearly all of Australia's coal capacity that they can get a ship under.

[CM1995]

What in the hell for dead animal is on your plate ??

It's a chicken - I think.*** I wish I had a picture of the goose feet.:throwup And yes the taste is worse than what you are thinking.

[ecocrusher1]

Don't know the exact laws :beatsme about pictures in China but if you have ever been to New York City, Chinese people definately have cameras and know how to use them.:D

[CM1995]

Well I am heading out to Tiawan tomorrow and then on to Hong Kong and Bejing. I will try to get some equipment pics and post them when I can.

[jmac]

Good luck! Don't eat the chicken. :D

[wrenchbender]

Enjoy and remember we like pics.

[CM1995]

Well 25 hours of flying and I finally made it to Taipei Taiwan. It is 11:00 am in the morning and jet lag is calling. I have not had time to snap any pics - it was early morning when we arrived and the haze is awful. I got this one outside my hotel room. Notice the scooters lined up on the sidewalk - everyone has one here. BTW - Taipei 101, the tallest building in the world (currently) is across the road from my hotel.

[Blademan]

:drinkup :notworthy
Thanks for the photos CM1995 , and i hope you get all caught up on your sleep . Wow , 25 hours to get there . That must of been some trip .

I've read a little about The Taipei 101 . It had something to do with the elevators that were pushing all kinds of boundries for speed vs. comfort . I think too that they are pressurized like a airplane cabin , to help people overcome the forces exerted on their bodies . They were more like pods then typical elevators .
Anyway , hope you're having a blast and thanks for sharing the photos and experiences .
Oh , and I noticed a hoe in the picture . Does it have a breaker attachment on ?
Cheers

[CM1995]

Thanks Blademan-:thumbsup

BHM to ATL, ATL to LAX, LAX to TPE. 25 hours total with layovers. (6hrs in LAX). It's 6:30 AM and my body is getting on schedule.

Anyway yesterday we went to visit the offices of our associates it was about a 30 min drive. I tried to get some pictures but it was nearly impossible with 4 people plus stuff crammed into a Ford escort. We were right next to a Izuzu single axle cabover pulling the shortest lowboy trailer I have seen loaded with a 200 Komatsu. The hoe hung off the beaver tail slightly and the other end of the tracks were touching the gooseneck. Get this- not a chain on the machine! :eek:

The machine in the picture is a 200-300 sized Komatsu with a hammer, quick coupler and what looks to be a 36" to 42" bucket. We raced by the site yesterday. :rolleyes: It's just difficult to get good pics riding in a car around here.

Scooters- man they are everywhere! It's funny at traffic lights they have a 15'-20' section marked off right behind the stop line. This is exclusively for scooters and cars can get a ticket for pulling into this area. So if you are in a car stopped at a light - all these scooters go through all the traffic and to the front of the line. It's very strange to have 25-30 scooters waiting at the front of the lanes waiting for the light to turn green. It's like a nerd motorcycle gang.:D

I have a few meetings today so I will probably not be able to make it to Taipei 101 until tomorrow. Maybe by then I will have a first hand experience on the elevators.:)

[wrenchbender]

CM1995, the pics are great but be sure to soak up some of culture while there. Glad the flight was ......Ok for lack of a better way of saying it. Hope you have a ball and gather all the info you need on this trip. Stay safe and don't drink the water ............ and no I don't think Birmingham would benefit from a few thousand scooters. (:beatsme Nerd Bikers?)

[CM1995]

Well I left Taipei for Hong Kong last night. It is good to be back in HK even though everything is so $$$$. Anyway I had the chance to go to Taipei 101 yesterday and it was truly amazing. The elevators travel at 1010m per minute!:eek: The first pic is from the lobby on the floor of the hotel we were staying on. The second 2 pics are Taipei 101 from the outside.

[CM1995]

Now to get a perspective of the height- The first pic is looking out of the observation deck. The second is also out of the observation deck. The third is looking down on our hotel!:eek:

[CM1995]

Having difficulty with the internet connection. I will try again later.

[ConstSite]

Nice view. When I was there last year they were extending the underground rail system down past 101. Have they completed it yet? I was in the country for 1 week and saw nothing larger than a Komatsu PC1600. Actually there is a Caterpillar 992 A or B series at a plant on the way to Jioufen. But talk about well used and rough equipment. The very last photo sums up my memory of Taiwan. I took that from a roof top, out in the open. That haze is not smoke or clouds and that crane was two blocks away. What a very dirty place.

- Christopher

BTW: I did rent a scooter for a day. Mask and all! What a blast!

[CM1995]

Great pictures. As far as the underground rail- I don't know. We only rode it one time to a night market - not a good one very touristy. We were only there for 3 days and I didn't really have any good opportunities to snap any good construction pics.(cabs, traffic, rain etc.) I don't think I saw any new equipment- well used stuff to say the least. I did see a newer bobcat S300.

The Asian Haze - would you believe that Hong Kong had blue skies this morning? No joke. We head to Beijing on saturday so I am soaking in the air quality in HK. (Never thought I would say that) I agree with you on Taiwan it is a dirty place but mainland China has it beat hands down.

As far as the scooters go - Are you freakin kiddin me?:eek: LOL I am not that adventurous.

[CM1995]

This a construction site in Hong Kong out past the airport. The excavator is a Kobelco. We were waiting to get on the cable cars to ride up to see the buddha statue. I watched them operate for several minutes and I bet the slop in the pins and bushings were at least 2". Well used machines.

[CM1995]

Well I was going through my picture file and ran across a few pics from last trip to China a few months ago. The first two are a building demolition in a very trendy part of town. We sat at the Outback steakhouse for a few :drinkup and watched them work for an hour or so. The amazing thing is we came back the next afternoon and the building was on the ground! The pictures I took the aftenoon before the hoes were on top of the 1st floor. I later found out that the construction crews work shifts 24-7, in preperation of the Olympics.

The first one is a cat 320B and the second is a komatsu 300 (if I remember correctly).

We walked the streets around there for a while, got something to eat at the hotpot - which by the way is a very interesting experience. It's a family style thing where you cook all your food in a big pot sitting on a gas burner in the middle of the table. You can order all sorts of meats and veggies, then cook them yourselves.

I couldn't help myself, the last pic I snapped in an alley market where they have all sorts of wares for sale including little food stands. And before anyone replies - no I did not have the guts to try it and furthermore I saw no one eating them.:eek: Scorpion soup is also a delicacy over there!:throwup

[CM1995]

Here are a few pics of the '08 Olympic buildings being constructed in Beijing. The first 2 are of the "birds nest" stadium, which by the way is breath taking!
The second is a picture of the atheletes dorms. I think it is a strange design with the 4 "quadrants". I suppose some fancy architect decided that every room needed windows:beatsme - which you do not want to open because the air is so dirty.

When I was there in April it seemed to me that they had a long way to go to be ready for the Olympics - but when you have over a billion people I guess anything is possible.

[BrianHay]

WOW!!!.... I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Thanks for sharing with us.

[CM1995]

:) WOW!!!.... I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Thanks for sharing with us.

Thanks man!:thumbsup I am just happy to share and more importantly have people who will care to see my pictures and listen to my ramblings.

China is a real interesting place - but don't get me wrong, I wouldn't wan to live there! The culture is so different from ours, even the way they think. I don't mean this in a bad way - it's just different. When we were in Tiawan, I went with my buddy that was finalizing engineering on a lighting product he is developing for the States. We spent all day in a conference room discussing the "look" of the final product. A couple of the guys spoke English so we had interpreters but sometimes the translation is lost.:Banghead Take for example: We wanted the lower housing cover of the light to be brown, as well as some other colors, instead of stark white to match the newer style house trim colors (the "old world" look). This should have been an easy discussion- but no the debate in Chinese took over 30 minutes! They had to discuss why it needed to be different colors and what the colors meant.:confused: BTW the chinese like to yell what they are thinking. I know this probably doesn't explain this very well but like I said before, their culture is just different.

But on another note, the Chinese are a very warm and welcoming people. I now have friends in Hong Kong, Mainland China and Tiawan. I never would have thought a kid from Camp Branch, Alabama would have friends a couple thousand miles away. Moreover call them on the cell to chat. Just a side note: I got better service on the cell phone from China than I can get from downtown Birmingham!:Pointhead

I have had the opportunity to travel to all but two of the worlds continents - Antartica and Australia. I would really like to go to the "down under" one day - maybe even meet up with our "reformed hijacker".:D

[BrianHay]

Right on. Ramble on. I enjoy stories of other places and cultures. I love to travel too but have not traveled outside Canada yet except for a little ways into Montana when I was kid. The most interesting place I have been sofar is the Arctic in Northern Canada.

[CM1995]

The most interesting place I have been sofar is the Arctic in Northern Canada.

Awsome! So what is it like? I can only image what winter is like. Obviously freezing cold.:eek: It has always amazed me how people live in such a harsh environment. It must take an awful lot of effort to just do the day to day stuff in a -20 F plus environment. I'm a southern boy, I haven't seen any snow at home in many years - we just don't get any. The coldest it gets down here is maybe 15-20 degrees F. If I want to see any snow, I have to travel out west.

[Countryboy]

Awsome! So what is it like? I can only image what winter is like. Obviously freezing cold.:eek: It has always amazed me how people live in such a harsh environment. It must take an awful lot of effort to just do the day to day stuff in a -20 F plus environment. I'm a southern boy, I haven't seen any snow at home in many years - we just don't get any. The coldest it gets down here is maybe 15-20 degrees F. If I want to see any snow, I have to travel out west.

Hey CM, if you wanna taste of some of the cold stuff then watch Ice Road Truckers on the History Channel. I know I couldn't do that but for a couple hours. It gets down to -40 degrees down there and some of them guys are driving around with no heater in the truck. :cool2

Having one of the Southern Tushes myself, I don't think I would make it to long out there. I haven't seen snow in the last 4 years. :beatsme

[BrianHay]

I absolutley loved it there. It was an adventure. I was hired by a company out of Inuvik as a dozer operator. But while I was on my way up it had a major break down and was out for the rest of the season. That kinda worked out good for me because then I got bounced all over the place wherever they needed me. The guys I worked for have a part in just about everthing up there. They probably own about 20 diferent businesses and a large chunk of the real estate. The first place they sent me was a small camp out on the tundra a little ways SouthEast of Tuktoyuktuk. My first night there it was -43 and a storm hit us just like something of off the discovery chanel. The camp was just one Atco trailer on skis with a bedroom and bunks at ether end. And another with the generator, fuel and tools in it. The storm forced the night shift in so there was 8 of us crammed in there. Six Eskimo's and two white guys. We had two auger trucks that we kept going 24 hours on Parsons lake. They were 1 ton Ford super duties with a hydraulic auger on the back. We would punch a hole in the ice with it and then leave it run in the hole to pull water up, flood the ice and make it thicker for the sizemic crews when they came through. When we were ready to move to the next hole we plugged it with a big block of snow. We were always soaking wet but it wasnt as bad as you would think. Once the outside of our clothes got wet and froze it kinda helped block the wind and unless you actualy fell down in the water (did that a few times) it didnt soak all the way through.

Another job I did with an auger truck was awsome. I stayed in Grubens camp just outside of Tuktoyuktuk which is like a small town in itself. At that time it was a 600 man camp. I was working about 20 miles North out on the Arctic ocean punching holes in the ice for the sizemic crews. I would punch the holes in a patern like the 6 on a dice. Then move ahead about another 100 feet and punch another 6. They would come behind me with nodwells that had big vibratory drills on them that would punch a hole in the sea floor for their explosives. We would do that for days and then it would be time to set off the explosives. Man was that ever awsome! It would be dead silent except for the wind and then a big muffled BOOOOM! The force behind those blasts was amazing. We were 20 miles out on the ocean on six feet of ice I dont know how far below the sea bed they were but it would rock my truck when they set them off.

The Makenzie river is a government regulated hiway from Inuvik to Tuktoyuktuk in the winter and there are dozens off artiries that jet off of it that are kinda like secondary roads. I got to pull lots of sleigh trains all over throughout the Mackenzie Delta. The biggest one I pulled was with a 950 Cat loader, it was six of the big Atco trailers. It was in the spring bringing everthing back in off of the tundra. That was really cool. The ice roads had been closed for over a week. They dont actualy get closed right down, your just not covered by insurance anymore if you fall through. The ice is still plenty thick enough but the spring run off from down South swells the river lifting the ice and it starts to break up. You can see the cracks jetting out around you and often water squirting up out out of them as your going.

I spent some time in an old 966 Cat loader opening up roads. Every truck and machine out on the tundra had 2 way radios in them. Once in a while I would be working away and the helicopter pilots would come on the radio telling the sizemic crews to get ready they were on their way to evacuate them. Big storm moving in fast. I would be hours away from the nearest camp and there was noone comming for me. I would just keep going, no sence turning back. I had good suplies with me and would be fine if I got stranded for a few days. Never did get stranded though..lucky.

Also drove a vac/steam truck for a while. I would go cruize out to all the camps and do whatever they needed done. There was three major ones and countless little ones when I was there. Grubens in Tuck was If I remember right a 600 man, Swimming point about an hour south was at least 300 and the third I dont remember the name. It was the coolest camp I have ever seen. I think it was about 300 man and it was a huge barge that they towed out in the summer to wherever it would be needed the next winter and just let it freeze into the ice. I did lots of snow removal in Inuvik and used the steam truck to open up culverts in the spring. In the summer only the top 6 inches of the ground thaws but there is tons spring runoff. So the culverts need a little help opening up.

In the winter its 24 hour hours of darness and in the sping its one amazing sunrise that lasts for weeks until it is 24 hours of daylite. Thats neat watching the sun go around and around on the horizen slowly making its way up.

...Holy crap Ive witen a book :o I think I'll stop my ramblings now :rolleyes:

[Countryboy]

Hope your little phone is still under warranty Brian. ;)

Where's that Tuktoyuktuk you were speaking of?

[BrianHay]

I got it got it hooked up to my laptop now :bouncegri
Tuk is in the very Northwest corner of the North West Territories. Its on the shore of the Arctic ocean. About 100 mile north of Inuvik.

[Countryboy]

I got it got it hooked up to my laptop now :bouncegri

Now ya done got all hi-tech on us. :D

Tuk is in the very Northwest corner of the North West Territories. Its on the shore of the Arctic ocean. About 100 mile north of Inuvik.

Whats the normal mode of transportation around there, trucks.....snowmobiles......snow shoes......:confused:

[BrianHay]

There is a little of everything. Trucks and snowmobiles mostly. No chains on any of the trucks though. That kinda suprised me until I was there and seen why. Chains would wreck all the roads. Graders go over them with serated blades. That helps with traction a lot. I seen some dog sleds but I think they are mostly just recreation rather than transportation nowadays. In the summer there is not to many places you can drive outside of town because you cant go out on the tundra and there is no road to Inuvik except for the river in the winter. But in the winter there are lots of ice roads that are plowed off. Its really cool traveling around up there. There is small camps scattered all over the place. You stop in at any one of them and just walk in, doesnt mater if you know anyone at that camp. You get welcomed in offerd a cup of coffee and the cook usualy asks if your hungry. Sit down and have a good b.s session and somthing to eat and your off again.

[CM1995]

Brian - wow!!:eek: That is some experience. Just let your clothes ice up on the outside - your like a walking igloo.:D Really enjoyed reading that, thanks for sharing.

CB - Oh yeah, Ice Road Truckers is now my favorite summertime show. Caught the new episode last night. I just didn't know how realistic the show was and how much "hollywood" was interjected - we all know how the "media" can be. But since we have our own real "ice road operator", we can get the real deal about the great white north.

I will be anxiously waiting for more stories from the Artic. BTW - it's my thread and a little hijacking never hurt anyone.:D

[BrianHay]

Right on :D glad you enjoyed the stories. I loved it up there I will probably go back again someday. I was only there a few months in the winter. I would like to see it in the summer, I hear the tundra is beautiful. They actually get warm weather in the sumer and with 24 hours of sun the tundra turns into one big beautiful garden.

[DR RPM]

Working in the Arctic is an experience any operator should experience, I've only worked about 400 km's ( 240 miles ) north of Yellowknife, far enough for me.:bash

[BrianHay]

Were you in the mines up there DR RPM? I've spent some time around Stony Plain, working and visiting. My uncle used to live there. He worked for Custom Carriers as a heavy haul truck driver.

[DR RPM]

I was at the Snap Lake mine, to build the air strip and ponds, went in as a trainer and driver. Didn't enjoy the outfit in there so I only did one hitch.:bash


Born and raised here, family has been here since 1874.

[CM1995]

Here are a few of Beijing - Tienamen Square and the Forbidden City.
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http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210026.jpg
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http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210047.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210042.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210036.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210038-1.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210033.jpg

When we were there and saw the magnitude of the place it really puts into perspective that fella , and the big pair of brass ones he had, that stood in front of the tank in the same area a years ago.

[coffee521]

What in the hell for dead animal is on your plate ??

of course it is chicken.
very famous here in china.

[coffee521]

The cooling tower is likely for a coal-fired power plant. You see the same style at nuclear plants here, but a nuclear plant would not need a conveyor system to move coal with, which is in the foreground. China is building coal-fired power plants as fast as they can, and buying nearly all of Australia's coal capacity that they can get a ship under.

you're right,that's coal-fired power plant.
basically there are three ways here in china to generate power:coal-fired,water-powered and nuclear powered.generally speaking,coal-fired power is the main source of power in cities.

[coffee521]

Here are a few of Beijing - Tienamen Square and the Forbidden City.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210029.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210026.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210027.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210025.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210047.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210042.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210036.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210038-1.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s33/CM1995_photo/Beijing%20China/P4210033.jpg

When we were there and saw the magnitude of the place it really puts into perspective that fella , and the big pair of brass ones he had, that stood in front of the tank in the same area a years ago.

i am so proud to see these pics in this forum,thanks man.

[CM1995]

i am so proud to see these pics in this forum,thanks man.

No problem!:drinkup Welcome to the Forum, graciously provided by Mr Frazier and company.

China is a very intersting place. I have had the opportunity to visit twice. I have been to Beijing, Guangzou (sp?), Shinzen, Macau, Hong Kong and Tiapei. Please excuse my spelling.:D

So what do you do for a profession in China?

[LDK]

It's a chicken - I think.*** I wish I had a picture of the goose feet.:throwup And yes the taste is worse than what you are thinking.

I think you will find that it's a duck and I think it's pretty tasty.

[CM1995]

I think you will find that it's a duck and I think it's pretty tasty.

Nope - it was a chicken and it was good, the duck is very tasty also. Goose feet not so much.

[LDK]

CM1995, did you try the "humpow" while you were in Taiwan, it was kind of like a hamburger with a fried egg on it? A buddy and myself used to eat them occaisionaly, I wasn't to hung up on them but the place was close to the site. Then we found out that they were made of dog, we didn't seem to use the place so much after that.

[CM1995]

CM1995, did you try the "humpow" while you were in Taiwan, it was kind of like a hamburger with a fried egg on it? A buddy and myself used to eat them occaisionaly, I wasn't to hung up on them but the place was close to the site. Then we found out that they were made of dog, we didn't seem to use the place so much after that.

I didn't try that but I did see it on some menus, you know how they like to include pictures on the menu and that comes in handy sometimes.:D

I found the food in Tiawan to be somewhat lacking, rather bland compared to Hong Kong cuisine, but in all fairness to Taiwan I was only there a few days. The Tiawanese do like their dog though, our contact their loves it. He told me they sell it canned in grocery stores but I was unwilling to go shopping.

[LDK]

Most of the asian countries I've been in seem to like it. It was real big in Korea. I had neighbors that fattened their dogs up for the dinner table.

[coffee521]

No problem!:drinkup Welcome to the Forum, graciously provided by Mr Frazier and company.

China is a very intersting place. I have had the opportunity to visit twice. I have been to Beijing, Guangzou (sp?), Shinzen, Macau, Hong Kong and Tiapei. Please excuse my spelling.:D

So what do you do for a profession in China?

Spelling correction:Guangzhou,Shenzhen

:)

I'm so glad to find this place and communicate with you friends. I am a mechanical engineer in a bus plant,say,a small plant,not so famous. How about you? I see you travelling a lot.