953d [Archive] - Heavy Equipment Forums

hvy 1ton

03-11-2007, 10:33 PM

As for the names of track loaders, there is no shortage of them. It's like Eskimos having dozens of different words for snow. They're surrounded by snow, and we are surrounded by track loaders. Most common names are track loader (duh), hi-lift, and hi-loader. I can't think of anymore at the moment but I know there are more.

9420pullpan

03-11-2007, 10:38 PM

this is all i have found so far 953D

4134

farm_boy

03-11-2007, 11:35 PM

this is all i have found so far 953D

4134

Come on 9420......I am dissappointed in you. Do you mean to tell me that I scooped these before you :avid

Tigerotor77W

03-12-2007, 12:10 AM

farm_boy, my guess is that those are pre-production machines... do you have a vested interest in these new kittens? :D

farm_boy

03-12-2007, 12:13 AM

I know nothing:beatsme Only at the right place at the right time:cool:

equipment fan

03-12-2007, 07:29 AM

I have a pic of the cat 953d.

9420pullpan

03-12-2007, 12:54 PM

thats right FarmBoy you were in the right place at the right time... awsome pics......

CM1995

03-12-2007, 02:32 PM

Where were you when you snapped those pics? The dump truck in the back ground looks European.

jazak

03-12-2007, 03:32 PM

Where were you when you snapped those pics? The dump truck in the back ground looks European.

Yep...My "?" whats so big about the track loaders??

CM1995

03-12-2007, 03:38 PM

Yep...My "?" whats so big about the track loaders??

I am thinking about adding another loader to the mix and just wanted to know what people thought about the new ones.

06bowtie_guy

03-12-2007, 03:58 PM

Track loaders arn't very popular around these parts. Not too sure why but that is the way it goes.

What size bucket can you get for that unit?

Tigerotor77W

03-12-2007, 05:00 PM

Yep...My "?" whats so big about the track loaders??

Big improvements in productivity and operator comfort. It's the first overhaul of the Cat loader line since the C-series was introduced in the late 90s, and also reaffirms Cat's commitment to the track loader market.

CM1995

03-12-2007, 05:03 PM

The 953 has a 2.4 CY bucket. Loaders use to be very popular in the southeast but hoes have taken some share. For us the track loader is a swiss army machine. It is invaluable on a pipe crew.

For doing small jobs or where you need to load a truck and grade it comes in very handy.

CM1995

03-12-2007, 05:14 PM

Big improvements in productivity and operator comfort. It's the first overhaul of the Cat loader line since the C-series was introduced in the late 90s, and also reaffirms Cat's commitment to the track loader market.

I am glad to see Cat and JD putting R&D into their track loader lines. They are really the only 2 manf. to produce a TL. ( I didn't leave out Liebehr - i include them as a JD, basically the same machine. They just don't have a presence in this part of the world.)

Has anybody had any experience with the newer JD loader?

Dozerboy

03-12-2007, 09:54 PM

I demo a new JD it was nice, but a 977 still has a place in my heart. They're a lot like there new dozers, I just hope the ac works better then the one in my 1050.

osborneconst

03-12-2007, 10:19 PM

We have a 2002 655c. It has been a really good machine. It is really strong, and can push a lot of dirt. We have moved some really big rocks with this machine, some that the machine would not pick up. Nice interior and comfortable to run all day long. It is just a Liebherr with John Deere stickers on it. We also have a Liebherr 611, its a good machine too.

rino1494

03-12-2007, 10:35 PM

I would love to run one of those. Hell, I would love to run a C model. We have a 955 and a 977 that we use quite a bit. I would love to get in the seat of one these new tractors.

Mike126

03-14-2007, 10:09 PM

digger242j

03-15-2007, 02:03 AM

Welcome to the forums, Mike!

One thing you can do is to search for "auction results" on the internet.

Here's what Google came up with for, " "auction results" construction" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22auction+results%22+construction&btnG=Search)

Check out some of those sites and you'll find what similar machines have sold for at auction.

You can also search for similar equipment for sale online. Try Equipment Trader Online, (which you can get to by clicking the logo right next to the flag at the top of this page.) :thumbsup Some of the listings may have prices shown.

And if worse comes to worst, you can always post all the details of the deal right here, and the guys will be more than happy to tell you what they think... ;)

CM1995

03-15-2007, 09:40 AM

I am trying to find out if there is a way to verify what is considered a competitive price on a 953D track loader with a multi-purpose bucket. I don't really want to call out of state, to another dealer. Any suggestions?

A buddy of mine that is in the pipe business quoted a new 953C with quick attach bucket and forks, enclosed cab A/C, lights, guards, ect and it was $186K. Which is not bad I paid that for my '05 953C without quick attach and forks. I would expect the 953D to be around $200k. Have you got a quote from your dealer? I am thinking of quoting one and we can compare the prices.

Cat 385C LRE

03-21-2007, 09:50 AM

Very Nice Track-Loader :)

JoshA

03-23-2007, 02:08 PM

So is it just the 953 that's being updated, or the 963 and 973 as well?

We have a late-model C series, like it, would love to put some time on a Cat 973D though! :cool:

We also have a 931 for around the farm... :o
-Josh

Wolf

03-23-2007, 03:00 PM

Despite all the new stuff, there is nothing like a 977 for getting the job done.

All power. It's all about power.

:notworthy

JoshA

03-23-2007, 03:31 PM

Can't disagree with ya too much on that one, she's a beast.

I'm even amazed on a regular basis by that 931, had a big 12,000lb+ concrete pad that fell on one of the JCB back-hoe loaders while we were undermining it. When it fell in the hole, we had to use the Hitatchi EX200 (tracked excavator) to get it out of the hole. That thing was standing on its toes, and inching that thing out of there. Ended up using the EX200 to finish up with the digging and backfilling, then sent it off to a job site, but left the concrete pad in the middle of the corral. Nothing could even budge that thing, we even tried using multiple tractors at once, but nothing. So it sat for over a year.

One day I had the 931 nearby, so I figured I'd go play with the pad for kicks. To my amazement, it pushed it no problem! I just went up to a corner, put a bit of up pressure, then pushed it out, around a corner, through some gates (a 12x12 pad through a 14 foot gate). I was even able to stand the thing on end! I didn't have quite enough reach, but I still could have flipped it over. I was amazed such a small machine could do so much, so from that point on I've always had a soft spot for tracked loaders, and I'm stilling trying to determine just what was the largest one ever made.:beerchug

-Josh

Gives you an idea of the size next to some of the tractors that couldn't budge it:

equipment fan

03-23-2007, 05:24 PM

You have a nice Deere tractor,cool:cool2 i have the model of your tractor in 1/50 scale!!!

unimog

03-23-2007, 08:43 PM

Don't see many of the bi-directional tractors either. I looked into some of the implements for my unimog. Does each PTO on that versatile turn in the correct direction? My front Pto turns in reverse so you have to watch what you're trying to run.

dirtworksequip

03-24-2007, 06:52 AM

Is the 953D equiped with the System One undercarriage?

CM1995

03-24-2007, 10:04 AM

I believe the system one will be standard on the 953D. I know the few 953C's Thompson Tractor has now has system one on them.

Tigerotor77W

03-24-2007, 11:27 AM

Yup. SystemOne standard on the 953D, D6K, D6N (Tier III), and D6T.

CM1995

03-24-2007, 11:30 AM

Our D6R III has system one. Its the first machine in my fleet to have it. So far so good but it only has 500 hours on it. My D6N doesn't have it.

dirtworksequip

03-24-2007, 11:40 AM

I knew Cat was going to use it in several applications,but wasn't sure which machines were going to get it. I was in Peoria last year at the Cat Tractor Plant and viewed it there. I have only seen it on one machine in service and have yet to run anything with the System One undercarriage.

CM1995

03-24-2007, 11:59 AM

Time will ultimately tell if the system one is worth it or not. I don't have enough hours logged in to make a decision.

lgammon

03-28-2007, 12:00 AM

what is system one?

OzDozer

03-28-2007, 04:35 AM

System One is Caterpillars revolutionary new undercarriage, that is such an extensive redesign of the crawler track system, that they actually hold 24 new patents on it.

Read all about it, from Cat themselves .. http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=48808&x=7

(click on 'redesigned' link to get the details on every part) ..

Deas Plant

03-28-2007, 07:16 AM

Hi, Folks.
From what I was told when I enquired about System One track about 18 months ago, it does not stand up well in high-impact applications such as rock work and possibly clearing. When working in clays and silts, etc., it outlasts even SALT track by quite a bit with significant cost reductions. I suspect that its viability may be somewhat application-dependant.

Whether any of the above has changed in the meantime, I do not know.

CM1995

03-28-2007, 08:51 AM

The only machine I have that is running System-One is a D6RIII. So far we have logged about 500 hours - not enough time to tell. But it has been clearing/grubbing and working in rock for most of those 500hrs. We have not had any problem with adjustment or slippage of the tracks and this includes working on some 1:1 natural slopes.

We are going to have our product services rep. come out and measure the undercarriage at 750 hours. I should know more about it then - time will tell.

Tigerotor77W

04-03-2007, 01:14 PM

The 963D specalog is now on the Cat page if you're interested in a gander...

equipment fan

04-03-2007, 06:49 PM

thanks for the news!

CM1995

04-03-2007, 09:11 PM

The 963D specalog is now on the Cat page if you're interested in a gander...

Looked at it today- thanks for the info. I think the next track loader will be a 963D. It's big enough to load 25ton artics yet still has the fine grade capabilities of the smaller loaders.:)

Tigerotor77W

04-03-2007, 11:14 PM

Looked at it today- thanks for the info. I think the next track loader will be a 963D. It's big enough to load 25ton artics yet still has the fine grade capabilities of the smaller loaders.:)

Sure. The thing that surprises me is that the static tipping load actually decreased from the 963C to the 963D, which doesn't make much sense because the machine got around a ton heavier. I'll have to double-check that spec sometime.

equipment fan

04-04-2007, 07:39 AM

Hey guys:notworthy ,does anyone have download the brochure of the cat 963d???My computer can`t download it by the cat website.

CM1995

04-04-2007, 09:07 AM

Hey guys:notworthy ,does anyone have download the brochure of the cat 963d???My computer can`t download it by the cat website.

I had a problem with it too. You may have to try several times to get it to download. It took me 3 times before I got it.

Tigerotor77W

04-04-2007, 09:50 AM

When downloading the Cat literature from the site, you have to right-click and "Save As." When you save it, rename it as [whateveryouwant].pdf -- for instance, when you right-click on the 963D and choose "Save As," call the file "963D.pdf"

That should work.

CM1995

04-04-2007, 05:57 PM

I got very lucky today! I had the opportunity to run a 953D today for about an hour. Can't reveal the sources but I did have permission to run it.:)

Here's what I can say about the machine:
1. First of all it is extremely quiet. With the throttle turned up to operating speed you can carry on a phone conversation.

2. The controls are very responsive and the steering is so responsive it is touchy but with time in the seat it won't be a problem.

3. Visability is greatly improved especially to the rear. You can see the rear track from the seat.

4. It's got plenty of power but I am not sure that it is any stronger than a C model. I would like to get them side by side for a demo.

5. The V-steer and bucket controls are mounted to the seat and slide with the seat. The seat slides side to side, like the C loaders if you want it to, but the weird thing is with the controls mounted to the seat they slide with you. That took a little getting use to. This machine had 1026 hours on it and the V-steer console was loose and had about a 1/2" play side to side. The bucket control console was tight.

6. The radiator and fan are much improved from a maintenance standpoint. Look at the pictures and you can see the hydraulic fan swings out so you can clean the radiator. This machine also had the reverse fan option.

CM1995

04-04-2007, 05:59 PM

And a few more.

equipment fan

04-04-2007, 06:21 PM

Hey tiger:notworthy ,thanks i will try this

Hey cm1995:notworthy ,The 953d look cool:cool2 They look to have a lot of good and great features.

Tigerotor77W

04-04-2007, 08:20 PM

I've seen some preliminary data that indicates the 953D and 963D outwork the C-series models by a little bit... CM, if you do get ahold of good test data, will you let us know which way the performance leans?

Cat 385C LRE

04-08-2007, 05:37 AM

Hey guys:notworthy ,does anyone have download the brochure of the cat 963d???My computer can`t download it by the cat website.

her have you the Brochure from the Cat 963D Track-Loader

http://cmms.cat.com/cmms/servlet/cat.dcs.cmms.servlet.DynamicImageServlet?imageid=C 230836&imageType=9

equipment fan

04-08-2007, 09:34 AM

Thanks cat 385c lre for the brochure,now i got it!And thanks to tiger for the help.

Cat 385C LRE

04-08-2007, 10:38 AM

Thanks cat 385c lre for the brochure,now i got it!And thanks to tiger for the help.

You Welcome ;)

CM1995

06-08-2007, 08:45 AM

So has anyone else had the chance to operate the 953D yet? Any info would be appreciated.

Gavin Phillips

07-14-2007, 04:24 AM

and I'm stilling trying to determine just what was the largest one ever made.
-Josh

That'd be the Komatsu D155S, weighs around 46 metric tons and usually mounted with a 6 yard rock bucket. As you'd expect not many were built! Komatsu had a line of what they called "dozer shovels" until the early 1990's when they got rid of them. I saw a few D31S and D41S machines here and there but the D41S is only about Cat 943-size so its not exactly one of the larger machines! :rolleyes:

Not many track loaders around here now, most jobs can be done just the same with a competant excavator operator including landscaping. Small demolition sites can be done entirely this way, everything from the demolition, to site clean-up and landscaping afterwards - no need for another machine on the site. Its a shame really, I miss seeing them around!

I'd love to see an HT-4 in the flesh though.

Oh and another name they go by is "traxcavator"; Caterpillar bought out an attachment-building company called Trackson in the early 1930's. They were better known for building pipe-laying side booms and cable-powered loaders. Cat got hold of these loaders and you ended up with the T2 (D2 mounted), T4 (D4 mounted), T6 (D6 mounted) and the mighty T7 (early versions were mounted on the D7 tractor, but later machines were on the D8). The HT4 was a hydraulic loader attachment based on the D4 though.

LDK

07-14-2007, 10:31 AM

That'd be the Komatsu D155S, weighs around 46 metric tons and usually mounted with a 6 yard rock bucket. As you'd expect not many were built!

Hi, wouldn't the CAT 983 have been around that size? I worked on a site that had one and if I remember correctly it had the same engine in it as the D8H? That was around 35 years ago!

Gavin Phillips

07-14-2007, 10:48 AM

The Cat 983 had a standard 5 yard bucket and is about 10tons lighter, still a very impressive machine! There was a 983B also, slightly heavier but I have no more information on that machine. It seemed to vanish off the production lines around 1982; excavators were making serious inroads in to job sites where crawler shovels would have been found in abundance.

Komatsu used to be quite a large-scale producer of their "dozer shovels". I wonder if in the future, they might reinstate production?

Sparffo

05-18-2008, 02:16 PM

Komatsu used to be quite a large-scale producer of their "dozer shovels". I wonder if in the future, they might reinstate production?

hi Gavin!
Nice to see you here also! :)
I have been looking at a komatsu D41s-3 loader in Ireland, i is quite cheap so therefore it is in interest! 4-1 bucket and 80% uc, for only 7000€!
wonder if you get parts for komatsu trackloaders anymore...

Gavin Phillips

05-18-2008, 02:27 PM

Hi Sparffo

Thanks for the welcome :)

How do you know the machine is a D41S-3 model? The last time I saw a D41S, there was no indication of whether it was a -2 or -3 or whatever. I'm just curious about that. :confused:

I spoke to a guy on the phone at Marubeni-Komatsu once up here in the north-east of England concerning the D41S which I had seen - ironically it wasn't that far from the place I phoned. The guy who I talked to didn't seem to realise I was talking about a track loader and sent me a spec brochure for a D41E-6 dozer instead...:beatsme oh well the brochure was well received anyway! :drinkup

As I recall, D41S is round-about Cat 941/943 size although the Cat's do have a bit more power. Of course Cat did away with the 943 model...

Tri-Star

05-18-2008, 07:14 PM

Sparffo, yes you can still get parts for the 41S. I have a 86 model, and most parts are stocked, But specialty parts, such as cylinders are a different story. Good luck!!!!

Sparffo

05-20-2008, 02:26 AM

Hi Sparffo

Thanks for the welcome :)

How do you know the machine is a D41S-3 model? The last time I saw a D41S, there was no indication of whether it was a -2 or -3 or whatever. I'm just curious about that. :confused:

As I recall, D41S is round-about Cat 941/943 size although the Cat's do have a bit more power. Of course Cat did away with the 943 model...

maybe we should trade brochures, if you find a D41s-3 brouchure;):D

Actually i don't know for shure if it's a -3 model, the seller "juma international" based in Cork Ireland tells me it's a -3 model. but i have requested for the serial number to get it further checked.

Tri-star
that sounds good! cylinders are anyway stuff that seldom needs to be replaced and are still parts that are rebuildable. but the trans and engine parts are probably the same as on some other Komatsu models.

I think i will go for the Komatsu, i don't think my employees would be so pleased to operate a old model 955H anyway, even if i would like it :D

maybe somebody from Ireland could go and check it out? :cool:

bear

05-20-2008, 01:04 PM

I've been idly wondering if you can still get backhoes for a t-loader. Guy a few miles from here has one and uses it for almost everything. I'm guessing it would be difficult to put one on a modern one sith everything set up the way they are.

herbsupurb

05-25-2008, 09:00 AM

Havent seen a 953D yet, but have ran and looked at a 973D briefly, part of a field follow by CAT. New ACERT engines are suppose to be very good in preformance on this model. On the 953D you have to 6.6 liter engine.

CM1995

05-25-2008, 09:52 AM

Welcome to the Forums herbsupurb!:drinkup

The only D I have seen/ran has been the '53. Not many '73's of any series around these parts. Boy how I would like to try a '73D.:D

What sort of application was the '73D being used in and how did the operators like it?

Gavin Phillips

05-25-2008, 11:18 AM

maybe we should trade brochures, if you find a D41s-3 brouchure;):D

Ahhhhh finding one is harder than it sounds! :eek: Most of the Komatsu brochures I see on ebay tend to be the newer stuff, track loaders (from Komatsu) are typically from the 1980's and 90's really.

herbsupurb

05-26-2008, 08:50 AM

973D is being used in blue stone quarrys in northern PA. Havent gotten a chance to talk with the operator, pretty sure they like it. they loved the transition with the C models. These quarrys are out in the woods, need the versitility of machine, also use the bucket and machines speed to get into the seems of stone and break them apart in big pieces. Have a boat load of 973C's in this area.

Burnout

05-26-2008, 09:37 PM

I can't wait for our 973D. I was told in Vegas that we have the next unit off the floor coming to us since we have had such bad luck with the C's. Mine has 5100hrs and 12lbs oil pressure.... figure that one out!

Deereman

07-09-2008, 11:30 AM

bear, i think about the only way you are going to get a backhoe is on a 455 or 555g. there is a boat load of 455g's with backhoes running around down here.
What is the name of the place in Kentuck you live?
There was a brand new demo 953D that had about 300 hours on it (I think) sitin in atlanta over a year ago. I just about missed it on the lot,but for some reason i caught it out of the corner of my eye and went and scoped it out . It really wasn't much diffferent from the C to me but i didn't get to run it. Did like the rear visibilty

keerym

07-09-2008, 02:39 PM

Has anyone operated a D-Series with the new joystick steering option? I ran one for about 5 minutes and fell in love. Its much easier to run than the v-handle and steering pedals. Its like a giant skid steer.

ZX850

07-22-2008, 04:23 PM

Does anyone know if the Cat "D" series has case drain filters on each of the systems..ie drive motors, pumps etc? If one system fails ie drive motor and takes out the rest...just saw a 963C lose a drive motor and take out 70k worth of hydraulic system.

dannyesforever

01-21-2010, 04:28 PM

gracias por el dato

Shay Stutsman

01-25-2010, 10:24 AM

Hello Everyone,
I have some great pictures of our new 953D that I would love to post, I’m a new member and I don’t think I have the ability to post the pictures yet as I’m still a probationary member? Hope I can post them soon!
Sincerely,
Shay Stutsman