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noah
10-10-2009, 01:41 PM
having a chance to bid a little different kind of work. The job is spreading bio solids on farm fields. They will do the trucking and dump in the fields i"m required to have a loader, 200 hp 4x4 tractor, and a knight Kuhn spreader.The question is fuel for the tractor? Does anybody know about how much fuel per hour for the tractor to figure.

jm62
10-10-2009, 02:33 PM
Your Mfg should have a fuel consumption rate chart. I know that the owners manual for even something as small as my skid steer has a fuel consumption rate charter. It tells me what to expect depending on how hard I am working the machine. It is not 100% accurate but it is close on consumption per hour.

North Texan
10-10-2009, 02:45 PM
The CIH 9150 I run now uses between 8.5 and 10 gallons of diesel per hour plowing, depending on what it is pulling and how hard/soft the ground is. Keeping it running at lower rpms helps fuel consumption a lot.

Used to run a 4840. It used about 8 gallons per hour.

noah
10-10-2009, 02:52 PM
North texan Not being a real farmer whats the horse power is the cih 9150 and 4840

trukfan
10-10-2009, 04:05 PM
You may be able to find a baseline here: http://tractortestlab.unl.edu/
They're an independant lab that tests all kinds of tractors under different load/work conditions. They have reports listed, but I haven't really looked at them yet. As far as H.P., I "believe" a 4840 is around 160-190 H.P. My neighbor has a 4850 MFWD, but I can't remember what he said it was. A CIH 9150 seems to be 230-280 H.P., based on ads I see online. Also, is the tractor 2WD or MFWD/4WD? That will make a difference in consumption, how much, I don't know.

powerjoke
10-10-2009, 06:32 PM
5-12gph
depends on terrain, and tractor

Pj

stovepipe699
10-10-2009, 06:41 PM
Figure on 10 - 12 gph. It may be less, but it depends on the machine. For example, my 9400T John Deere (425 hp) never burned more than 13 gph, and when we demo'd the new 9630T, it burned over 20 gph in the same field.(latest round of emissions.) Just a heads up.

jm62
10-10-2009, 09:51 PM
trukfan, that is some info worth hanging on to for future reference. Thanks you make have saved some people a lot of money where fuel consumption is concerned when bidding or working hourly.:my2c

trukfan
10-11-2009, 12:40 AM
No problem. When Noah mentioned GPH, for whatever reason I remembered when one of the farming mags. we get used to do field trial tests with the Nebraska tractor lab. I'm kinda curious what the solids are. Are we talking solids from a pit, remants from a digester, or something else?

jm62
10-11-2009, 01:51 AM
trukfan, to me poo is poo. it all stinks, I don't care how you spread it. Even when I'm the one sling it, it still stinks sooner or later. Although I have been told that i am full of it, and that I hold a MBS, my wife still tells me that If i'm going to sling it, clean it up. OK OK enough with the poo jokes. :lmao:falldownlaugh:deadhorse

noah
10-11-2009, 09:21 PM
TRUKFAN What a site, alot of information, thanks.

watglen
10-12-2009, 09:40 AM
That spreader wont take too much to pull, you wont be working that tractor. I run a 235hp tractor pulling a 9500 gallon spreader. I run the road with it, and that is where you burn the fuel. Not in the field. In the field you run kinda slow or dead slow. Hardly burns anything there. I burn 75 gal/day in a long hard day.

You can safely figure 50 U.S. gal/day. Not more than that.

If its muddy, it will take more power, and more fuel. But i doubt you even burn that much. It's not like your running any ground engaging tools.

Good luck

stock
10-14-2009, 04:09 PM
Depending on what tractor you have and the power requirement for your spreader,be it a rear discharge or side discharge dual spreader,the distance of the haul etc etc, if you go on local tractor hire rates you won't be too far off.
Over here there are very strict rules on this type of operation if it is "homo sapien" poo and there is a lot of employee precautions as well just something to bear in mind.

North Texan
11-11-2009, 08:29 PM
You may be able to find a baseline here: http://tractortestlab.unl.edu/
They're an independant lab that tests all kinds of tractors under different load/work conditions. They have reports listed, but I haven't really looked at them yet. As far as H.P., I "believe" a 4840 is around 160-190 H.P. My neighbor has a 4850 MFWD, but I can't remember what he said it was. A CIH 9150 seems to be 230-280 H.P., based on ads I see online. Also, is the tractor 2WD or MFWD/4WD? That will make a difference in consumption, how much, I don't know.

When these were built, John Deere advertised the JD 4840 at 180 hp. The 466 Deere engine was a decent engine in the 4840, but really the 4440 and 4640 tractors worked a lot better. Without duals, the 4440 would harness all the power that engine would produce, only it wasn't turned up as much, so it was easier on fuel. With duals, most 4640s will pull just as good as 4840s, and they will do it on less fuel.

CIH advertised the 9150 at 280. From my time in the cab, I have no reason to doubt that claim. It will pull a 28' chisel at about the same speed the 4840 would pull a 14'.