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07-21-2009, 09:18 PM
ive noticed, that h.e. equipment will linger at a site long after its need! im assuming it is because the cost of moving it to anything but a new job is an expense that the g.c. dosnt want to spend! that makes sense to me! but is that the reason i see equipment lay still for months at a time? does this stuff get moved by the ton, or mile, whats the gig? ive noticed that even the big guys , who own there own low boys , wont move stuff very often! its kinda like, every site is the depo, until the next job! please respond!

JimBruce42
07-21-2009, 10:16 PM
I'm just an operator so I'm not sure about the specifics, but here's what I've learned and or heard from the grapevine....:drinkup

It costs a lot to move equipment, because of weight, height, length, width. It all factors in. and once even one of those items is exceeded by a certain amount you need to apply for permits, which cost money. I'd imagine there are general permits that can cover most loads for a specific trailer, and then "special" permits, for the real big stuff. Cross state lines, it gets even more expensive cause of different weight laws, etc. On the big stuff, you need to plan out routes with proper clearance and weight capacities, etc... usually a longer distance, more fuel.

For example, our 345's are an oversized load, but in PA we can get away with just an escort (typically the rolloff with the c/wt and bucket(s)), but when they are moved in DE, they are considered a "super load" which requires special permits ($$) a police escort ($$). Another example is when we had our 385 lme, it would cost something like $20K to move, not including dozers, or the 740's. That's $40,000 dollars per job, for one machine.

So if you don't have another job right away for it to go to, and the room to "store it" on that job, then it's more cost effective to leave it there and just move it once, than to move it to the yard then from the yard to the next job. Hope that helps and that I'm somewhat accurate, if not I'm sure someone here will know the right answers:Pointhead:usa:notworthy

mikef87
07-22-2009, 04:42 PM
I'm just an operator so I'm not sure about the specifics, but here's what I've learned and or heard from the grapevine....:drinkup

It costs a lot to move equipment, because of weight, height, length, width. It all factors in. and once even one of those items is exceeded by a certain amount you need to apply for permits, which cost money. I'd imagine there are general permits that can cover most loads for a specific trailer, and then "special" permits, for the real big stuff. Cross state lines, it gets even more expensive cause of different weight laws, etc. On the big stuff, you need to plan out routes with proper clearance and weight capacities, etc... usually a longer distance, more fuel.

For example, our 345's are an oversized load, but in PA we can get away with just an escort (typically the rolloff with the c/wt and bucket(s)), but when they are moved in DE, they are considered a "super load" which requires special permits ($$) a police escort ($$). Another example is when we had our 385 lme, it would cost something like $20K to move, not including dozers, or the 740's. That's $40,000 dollars per job, for one machine.

So if you don't have another job right away for it to go to, and the room to "store it" on that job, then it's more cost effective to leave it there and just move it once, than to move it to the yard then from the yard to the next job. Hope that helps and that I'm somewhat accurate, if not I'm sure someone here will know the right answers:Pointhead:usa:notworthy

That's what I do, to costly to send equipment back to the yard. If you can leave it on the job leave it on the job. I have a Komatsu PC600 we pull the cwt, stick and bucket to move it. That a minimum of $2600 to move to a job depending on the distance. You have 2 mechanics, a lowboy, and a flat bed to haul the cwt, bucket and stick. A move in and out of a job costs a little over $5,000.

counter
07-22-2009, 06:54 PM
thank you for the replies! i figured those moves were expensive, but never would have dreamed it to be in the thousands! makes sense to let it sit till needed!

EZ TRBO
07-23-2009, 10:02 PM
Well consider this, today I moved 2 conveyors, a impactor and a load on the low boy, total milage was 309 miles and yesterday we had 1 truck make 3 trips and 2 trucks make 4 trips, not to mention the stuff the pick up hauls. Most everything we can move is done with signs only, our 988 has to have a permit as well as the primary crushers but I don't belive we have to pay anything for a trip permit. I know that our sand plant consist of 21 "loads" or trips and is around $10K each time we move, cost of trucking, man time and crane rental.

So moving equpiment needs to be done, but trying to move it only when you have to move it.

Trbo