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[qball]

played on this rig at our training site.
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[ATCOEQUIP]

played on this rig at our training site.
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Some people get to have all the fun! That's really cool qball. You need to send some pics of you in a tower crane. :D

[td25c]

played on this rig at our training site.
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I like it.How do the clutches work?Are they Air or hydraulic actuated?

[Lashlander]

I like it.How do the clutches work?Are they Air or hydraulic actuated?

Air, manual swing. Swing has a nice feel until you go to swinging a clam bucket up hill into the wind all day. Has a tendency to wear an arm out. That crane looks like its in nice shape. I do believe it the first crane I ever saw with a hand signal chart inside the cab though.

[Buckethead]

I think rigs like that are smoother than the modern computer controlled marvels. I think they were actually a little more reliable, too, without all the electronics. A lot of pile driving contractors around here still prefer cranes like that. Quite a few friction cranes still make money for their owners.

[qball]

Air, manual swing. Swing has a nice feel until you go to swinging a clam bucket up hill into the wind all day. Has a tendency to wear an arm out. That crane looks like its in nice shape. I do believe it the first crane I ever saw with a hand signal chart inside the cab though.

my buddy taught me about the big swinger. whatta difference.
the crane was remanufactured in 1998 by manitowoc and recieved a new s/n.
it gets about 300 hours a year.:drinkup

[td25c]

It sure looks like a nice rig.And a good training facility.

[Tanstaafl]

I think rigs like that are smoother than the modern computer controlled marvels. I think they were actually a little more reliable, too, without all the electronics. A lot of pile driving contractors around here still prefer cranes like that. Quite a few friction cranes still make money for their owners.

Quite a few of the cranes on the job I'm at are friction cranes. We've got 2 3900s, a 4100, a 4600, and a 2900. 3 of those are barge mounted as well. We had the CCO test this weekend and all the operators got to do the lattice boom practical on the 3900 yard crane.

[D5G]

Awesome training site q! Keep the cool pics commin.

[Lugghead]

I KNOW you weren't shadowing the course...........:Banghead :D

I do believe it the first crane I ever saw with a hand signal chart inside the cab though.

You're supposed to have a pocket full of signal charts to give to EVERY ironhead that "KNOWS how to signal" :dizzy:dizzy

[piledriving]

Sup Qball, long time no see....sweet little rig and great pics!

Justin

[Linkbelt HC]

Hey Qball;

Great pics! Sorry to revive an old thread but I am wondering if your training site was only using friction draw-work machines or, if you had some hydraulic cranes to work with at the same time.

[qball]

Hey Qball;

Great pics! Sorry to revive an old thread but I am wondering if your training site was only using friction draw-work machines or, if you had some hydraulic cranes to work with at the same time.

we have about 10 friction rigs , ten telescopic hydros, and about 10 hydraulic lattice rigs.
just put up a 999 luffer, and a 16000.
not to brag, but we have the BEST heavy equipment training site in the world.:usa

[Linkbelt HC]

Awesome!! You guys must have fantastic support to run a facility of that caliber. Well done. How long do your guys attend training at the site, and what kind of seat time do they get?

[qball]

like i said, second to none. apprentices have to attend class for 2 weeks a year for 4 years and spend 80 hours at the site on their own.

[Linkbelt HC]

Sounds excellent! Our site has 1st year apprentices attend for five weeks and then return in their third year for an additional six weeks. They operate and rig a friction crawler, hydraulic RT and a hydraulic AT. Unfortunately we do not have a hydraulic crawler...:(

[cranedude07]

great pics Q

[dynahoescott]

Hey buckethead, I totally agree with your oppinion on rigs, friction is more smoother to me also. But as far as guitarists go, I think you should have neal schon up there he REALLY rips it up:usa

[dynahoescott]

Local 825 has a FANTASTIC facility also I am very proud of it also:drinkup

[Buckethead]

Hey buckethead, I totally agree with your oppinion on rigs, friction is more smoother to me also. But as far as guitarists go, I think you should have neal schon up there he REALLY rips it up:usa

Yes Neal Schon is a great guitarist! But there is no part of a machine called "Neal" or "Schon" LOL.

[dynahoescott]

hello buckethead, I followed you on a couple of threads and it seems we moderately share the same opinnions. pretty cool. I was curious if you followed that debate with me and that guy from arkansas about control pattern switching, very heated . Where do you stand:beatsme

[classictruckman]

I wouldn't mind hearing that either, but first I wouldn't mind knowing what the JD pattern looks like, because I've only run cat controls.

[qball]

Guys, don't bring a thread killing argument here. I get in enough trouble on my own.

[Buckethead]

hello buckethead, I followed you on a couple of threads and it seems we moderately share the same opinnions. pretty cool. I was curious if you followed that debate with me and that guy from arkansas about control pattern switching, very heated . Where do you stand:beatsme

I haven't been keeping up with that thread. I don't want to get in the middle of someone else's argument., or highjack this thread. I can run different patterns, but I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to learn them. Maybe others have only had the chance to get experience on one. I really don't like to criticize other operators abilities regardless of where they are, or who they work for or anything like that. Because we all had to learn sometime.

[dynahoescott]

I haven't been keeping up with that thread. I don't want to get in the middle of someone else's argument., or highjack this thread. I can run different patterns, but I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to learn them. Maybe others have only had the chance to get experience on one. I really don't like to criticize other operators abilities regardless of where they are, or who they work for or anything like that. Because we all had to learn sometime.

I couldnt agree with you more myself, I dont ever put any other operator down because there are plenty others out there who will, and like I told them, putting another operator down doesnt build yourself up whatsoever. In this buisness the only thing guaranteeing your next paycheck is the capabilities and production you put into it today. :drinkup

[Tiny]

Have never run a crane but have been around tearing them down and setting them back up for years.Was talking to an older Operator about the 3900 T he was on.He said "Son they don't build them like this any more,If a guy hollers on the radio Give me a 1/2 inch I can give him that 1/2 inch.Try that with one of those others"

[jhschul287]

I agree Tiny....I ran a 4100 Vicon for several years and you could absolutely feather that line in 1/2 inch at a time.
I'm running a brand new TEREX/AMERICAN 230 ton crawler now....and it is a smooth machine ,but hoist control leaves a lot to be desired.

[CRAFT]

I couldnt agree with you more myself, I dont ever put any other operator down because there are plenty others out there who will, and like I told them, putting another operator down doesnt build yourself up whatsoever. In this buisness the only thing guaranteeing your next paycheck is the capabilities and production you put into it today. :drinkup

VERY well put !

[Linkbelt HC]

Have never run a crane but have been around tearing them down and setting them back up for years.Was talking to an older Operator about the 3900 T he was on.He said "Son they don't build them like this any more,If a guy hollers on the radio Give me a 1/2 inch I can give him that 1/2 inch.Try that with one of those others"

Hmmm, I don't know....:) I agree that the older fellows can certainly bring out the maximum potential of a machine... I can certainly line down on our Link-Belt LS in small amounts (I never tried for just an inch) However, in our Liebherr AT I can set my computer and line down or up 1cm at a time. :cool: In addition, I can use the winch counter to measure the height or depth of objects. And, if I am lowering material to workers in tunnel, I can lower the 1st load, zero the winch counter and then all my subsequent lifts can be brought down to exactly the same level.

[BigIron25]

we have about 10 friction rigs , ten telescopic hydros, and about 10 hydraulic lattice rigs.
just put up a 999 luffer, and a 16000.
not to brag, but we have the BEST heavy equipment training site in the world.:usa

When did you get a 16000? got any pics or vids?