Hoist decisions for my dump deck

[Ford LT-9000]

I'am in a stage I need to decide which hoist should I go with. A front mount mount telescoping or go with a scissor hoist.

The front mount telescoping post hoist is the best but man its going to require abit more fab work to make it work. I can get a scissor hoist with the subframe and hinges all in one. All I have to-do is bolt the hoist and subframe to the trucks frame and bolt the hoist and hinges to the deck and its mounted.

With the post hoist I have to build my own subframe and hoist mount etc.

Things I don't like about the scissor hoist is its heavier compared to the post hoist. The scissor hoist runs the risk of powering out I don't like that either.

The post hoist will bend the trucks frame before it poweres out. The post hoist will need quite abit of fabrication work for me to make it work.

Which way would you guys go ?

Projected loads dump probably around 7000lbs and maybe the odd load at 9000lbs but the average load where I'am hauling demo debris probably no more than 3000lbs.

[Steve Frazier]

I've run both styles of hoist and have never had a load on either one I couldn't dump. If you build your hoist to be beyond the capacity of the body, you shouldn't have any problem with it lifting the load regardless of the style you pick. One advantage of scissors hoists you haven't mentioned is their ability to dump more with more stability on side hills than a front post type. With smaller trucks you often find yourself in less than perfect conditions when dumping the load.

On my old F-350, I was regularly dumping 9000 lbs. loads with a scissors hoist by Rugby, I don't remember what it was rated for but the truck never hinted at not being able to raise the load.

[nedly05]

I've run all sizes of trucks, and in a little truck, I would rather have a scizzor type hoist. They are much more stable. The telescopic is the way to go for a big truck (tandem, tri axle) The telescopic hoist being up front on the box would worry me that I might either tip the truck over, or damage the piston. I have dumped little trucks in some really bad spots that if I had a tele hoist I would have gotten in trouble. Just my opinion.:thumbsup

[Ford LT-9000]

With this being a flatdeck dump which I never really had before my previous dump was a F-450 with a 11 mason box with a front mount hoist. And I have experience with regular tandem axle dumps the box does take a beating twisting and racking when your slightly off kilter.

Nedly is right about smaller dumps like 1 and 1.5 ton dumps they are dumping in situations where the truck is tilted to one side or the other. With a flatdeck I could see it bending if the load shifted to one side when dumping it could bend the deck.

I have been looking at the spec's and I can get a Crysteel Lowboy LB-500 it should give me anywhere from a 8.6 to a 9.8 ton capacity depending on the overhang.

[Steve Frazier]

Anything happening with this?

[Ford LT-9000]

I have a brandnew 8 ton post hoist in my parents basement I went full time with the gov't all summer and fall I didn't have time to even fart working 15 to 20 days on 4 days off. The company can work employees 21 days straight no days off and no overtime. They try not do that too much employees get pretty testy I get cranky after 15 days on.

I will start working on the dump body I started this spring. The weather here has been pretty nasty and dad is using his welding shop so I have no place to work on it. When spring gets here and the sun comes out I can work outside again.

[LightningLoader]

Guess I'm too late. I was going to say that I'd probibly go with the scissor. You don't have to build a dog house into the body for it, and it is much more stable in my opinion. If you were building a gigantic body you should go with a telescopic, but scissors work great for most applications.

[Ford LT-9000]

I don't like scissor hoists they power out and add too much weight to the truck. Yes they are more stable but when the sucker powers out because its overloaded I don't want to start shoveling. Also scissor hoists are slow compared to post hoists I used to beable raise the box quicker than a lanscape friend with his truck that has a scissor hoist both PTO hydraulic both 11' boxes.

A 6 inch deep by 12 inche wide dog house is a easy price to pay for brute lifting force. Had the same post hoist on my other F-450 it wouldn't stop it didn't matter if I had 9000lbs in the box it dumped it without groaning.

The hoist I have now weighs 150lbs complete a scissor hoist with the equal power is 550lbs that extra 400 lbs takes away valuable payload.

I'am building a 11 foot flatdeck with loads projected to be 8000lbs so I want the power.

[PSDF350]

I'am building a 11 foot flatdeck with loads projected to be 8000lbs so I want the power.

:confused: And your building this when? For what your old truck? your new $58,000 $1,200 a month truck that you cant keep busy. Or your new dump you are going to take dump off to put bins on:confused: You have more prjects and more trucks you want to buy for your supposed trucking business but as of yet haven't seen anything. I am just trying to figuire you out. How old are you? You still live with mommy and daddy right? You'd think with all the opinions you have about everything you would actually finish something. So either buy a truck, or rebuild your supposed truck. Post some pics when you do.

[Ford LT-9000]

No I'am house sitting for the neighbours that are snow birds its cheaper than paying 800 a month in rent.

I'am 30 and have been working in the construction industry since I got out of highschool. Been around heavy industry when I could walk.

When you live in a community that has had a slow economy for 15 years its tough to make a living. I have been self employeed trying to scrape together a living which is BEEPING tough when there is limted work. When I graduated in 1995 there was not many job opertunities the unemployement rate was very high. Getting a decent paying job was next to impossible the contractors had enough work to keep their current employees going. You had to be self-employeed to make a living here so I did all kinds landscape jobs. The wages were low back then 15 dollars per hour was top wage for you and tools. Most people were only willing to pay 10 dollars per hour so you worked all day for 80 bucks.

My truck rate was 25 dollars per hour then nodody paid more than that you charged more you didn't work that was going rate for a 1 ton truck. If you were lucky you made 100 dollars for the day. A those days gas was 2.51 a gallon my old 1 ton used to burn 8 dollars per hour.

I got on part time with the gov't and its not regular work you have to stick it out for years being part time getting couple days a month so I had to try do other part jobs. After 5 years of sticking with the gov't I have a chance to go full time. If I go fulltime I will have a job for the next 30 years but the job doesn't make enough money per month. I will have a pension like many people will not I have medical and dental many people do not and the job is guaranteed paychecks.

If the construction which is driving the local economy takes a dump I will be still working while the people in construction struggle to make a living. The builders I know which are pretty well all of them say this last 3 years has been the busiest they have been ever.

I have never taken a friggin hand out in my life I never collected welfare or unemployment insurance every cent I earned it went into cost of living. Rent in those days was 450 a month and good luck in trying to find a place to rent.